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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    His problem is he can't legally.
    While limited, there are things he CAN do legally with executive orders. Obama is very good at skirting the legal line and he will push it as far as he can.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    it's going to be funny when the next guy/gal gets into office, and their views counter yours

    with the precedents that this administration has set as far as not following the law, or circumventing the law, or making it up as they go.....

    think of what a libertarian or a conservative will do.....

    whats good for the goose is good for the gander.....

    you think they are going to go back to playing the game the right way? nfw

    new rules are now set.....

    enjoy them while you have them.....

    you may not like things as much later
    This is why it is such a dangerous game the Dems are playing. I think they are playing ALL their cards in the hopes they win the presidency in 2016.

    I simply cannot phathom why they think it is such a good idea for a president to have that much power without it being kept in check.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    what does "prevent and deter the illegal entry of aliens into the united states" mean to you?
    A wink wink, nod nod. No administration has ever been SERIOUS about border security!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    This is why it is such a dangerous game the Dems are playing. I think they are playing ALL their cards in the hopes they win the presidency in 2016.

    I simply cannot phathom why they think it is such a good idea for a president to have that much power without it being kept in check.
    It's the same thing so many wondered when Bush was running amuck.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    While limited, there are things he CAN do legally with executive orders. Obama is very good at skirting the legal line and he will push it as far as he can.
    Not unlike all presidents do.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not unlike all presidents do.
    Correct, this isn't just an Obama thing although one could argue the scope of Obama's XO have been far reaching. They continue worse with each administration.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    it's going to be funny when the next guy/gal gets into office, and their views counter yours

    with the precedents that this administration has set as far as not following the law, or circumventing the law, or making it up as they go.....

    think of what a libertarian or a conservative will do.....

    whats good for the goose is good for the gander.....

    you think they are going to go back to playing the game the right way? nfw

    new rules are now set.....

    enjoy them while you have them.....

    you may not like things as much later
    Not at all, you and I agree on this. The "imperial presidency" the, "I'm the decider president" the, "my job would be a whole lot easier if I were a dictator, presidency was protected by GOPer partisans and this president picked up where he left off. Partisan protection for this president too, will ensure more of the same in the next presidency whether we have another smart ass or a dumb elephant, partisanship is the problem. Presidents will do whatever they are allowed to do!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Correct, this isn't just an Obama thing although one could argue the scope of Obama's XO have been far reaching. They continue worse with each administration.
    Yep, it's called partisan cover!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A wink wink, nod nod. No administration has ever been SERIOUS about border security!
    we know that now

    we didnt know that then.....

    which is why Reagan accepted the 1986 act.....he "expected" congress to actually do what they put into the law

    so why would we continue to keep the borders relatively open and give amnesty again?

    as i said before

    fool me once, shame on you
    fool me twice, shame on me

    we know better this time around.....or god help us all
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    we know that now

    we didnt know that then.....

    which is why Reagan accepted the 1986 act.....he "expected" congress to actually do what they put into the law

    so why would we continue to keep the borders relatively open and give amnesty again?

    as i said before

    fool me once, shame on you
    fool me twice, shame on me

    we know better this time around.....or god help us all
    apparently no one does know better this time around. There have been republican controlled houses and senates subsequent to Reagan, and the borders remained open. Open borders are good for big business, don't you understand this. The borders aren't going to be closed. Stop pointing fingers at the smart ass and acknowledge that the dumb elephant has done nothing to secure our borders either. There is a systemic problem that no amount of partisan politics is going to fix.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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