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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You do realize the US is not a dictatorship?

    Furthermore I love how progressives argue against voter ID laws yet have no problem with Obama using executive orders while trumping their representation.....
    It seems that one man's dictator is another man's effective leader.

    For example, the folks who are whining, "Dictator! Dictator!," have no real big problem with the GOP dominated congress that dictates a stagnant, filibustering, stonewalling agenda that dictates that the sitting president is unable to carry out any and all measures he was voted into office to do and carry out the majority will of America, who voted him into office, twice.

    It's kinda weak if you ask me but whatever. Myself, I'm glad to see Obama growing a nutsack and telling these obstructionists to take a hike. It's long overdue.

    Just my two-cents though.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    All laws should go through Congress - that is why we have a Congress.
    When Congress passes laws, yes. The partisan gridlock in the Capitol is strangling us as a nation. I halfway hope that the GOP does win control of the Senate in November because it's probably our only hope of actually getting something passed. It may get vetoed, but that is part of the process.


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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Obama to take executive action on immigration - CNN.com

    Obama finally saying enough is enough. If congress wont come with him, then he will got at it alone. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Given that our immigration laws are statutory in nature, I don't know how in the hell he thinks he is going to do that. I guess this will be another set of laws he and Holder will be telling us to ignore.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Basic logic. Executive orders are limited in their scope and nature. They do not apply to everyone or cannot be used on everything at will.



    No its not.
    Executive orders don't apply to everyone????? that sounds like affirmative action....

    Using your logic (which I don't agree with) progressives are even more fascist then I thought.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Boehner said he can't get it done. It needs to be done. Obama should press forward and let the chips fall where they're going to fall. If the Supreme Court slaps him down, then that's how it's going to be. At least he tried.

    The problem is this obviously insignificant little thing to Obama, called the Constitution.

    Just because he wants something done a certain way, doesn't mean that he gets to have it his way.

    He keeps saying that a law needs to be passed to solve the immigration problem... but that law (or actually laws) already exists.

    Just one, and this is a big one, is the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986. In that law, which was signed by Reagan, almost all of what Obama just said on TV needed to be made law... already is... in this very law.

    It made hiring illegals... illegal.

    It made transporting illegals... illegal.

    It required what is now known as e-Verify... for all companies in the US.

    It required the Attorney General to prosecute... all immigration law breakers, including employers.

    It required the border to be secured, and required the President to do so.

    The problem is, that once the Democrats that controlled Congress during that time period, got their amnesty, they "defunded" the remainder of the law so that the President could not do those parts, like employer mandate to verify legal status, investigate and prosecute employers of illegal aliens, secure the border or any other part... other than the amnesty.

    And, that's partly why, right now, the Republicans don't want amnesty, and do not trust the Democrats to fulfill any other parts of any other law. That... and the laws already exist to do EVERYTHING he said he wanted a law to state - except amnesty for those that are here now. And, that's what this all comes down to... AMNESTY, since everything else is already in current laws and all he has to do is follow the law and enforce them.

    Again, all he has to do, is actually enforce the law. The law that's already on the books. Except amnesty, that is.

    See? Problem solved. Just enforce the laws that already exist, and then we can have a debate about Amnesty without all the BS political spin from both sides.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What he is going to do is called amnesty. Bet on it.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^ Quoted for truth.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Implement Sen. Rubio's bi-partisan Immigration law from last year as an executive order.
    Let Boehner sue and we'll see how America votes in November .
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    When Congress passes laws, yes. The partisan gridlock in the Capitol is strangling us as a nation. I halfway hope that the GOP does win control of the Senate in November because it's probably our only hope of actually getting something passed. It may get vetoed, but that is part of the process.
    Forget the GOP they're just as bad as the progressives.

    The GOP is just as good as the progressive establishment.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Ya know, I listened to Obama say he was going to take his latest Executive Action because the Tea Party wouldn't let Boehner vote on the wonderful Senate Immigration Bill.
    And what he said he was going to do was send personnel to manage the border.
    So I wondered why he needs another bill to make him enforce the border when we already have laws that require him to do that very thing.
    Then I realized he was playing with words again.
    He didn't mean he was taking E.A. to enforce the border, he meant he was going to send more people to process all those kids.
    Just like he had planned from the beginning of the year.

    Say what you will, he's a scumbag all right, but he's the most proficiently lying scumbag President we've ever had.
    I think he also is going to mandate state foster care systems to put all those children ahead of our own who need foster care. Whatever he does, it will NOT be in the interest of the American people.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Obama to take executive action on immigration - CNN.com

    Obama finally saying enough is enough. If congress wont come with him, then he will got at it alone. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    When did he gain the power to legislate? We're not supposed to have a king.
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