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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    He can't even be impeached. Americans don't hold presidents accountable, otherwise nearly every president would have been impeached.
    yes he can be impeached. yes we do hold the president accountable. he is not a king or a monarch he is an elected official by the people. therefore we the people have the right to hold him accountable. the house has the right to bring impeachment charges. abuse of power and failure to implement the law would be good enough.

    there isn't anything obama can legally do on immigration. there is nothing he can try and pass that would pass constitutional muster.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yes he can be impeached. yes we do hold the president accountable. he is not a king or a monarch he is an elected official by the people. therefore we the people have the right to hold him accountable. the house has the right to bring impeachment charges. abuse of power and failure to implement the law would be good enough.

    there isn't anything obama can legally do on immigration. there is nothing he can try and pass that would pass constitutional muster.
    Of course the American people have the right, hell, the obligation. Perhaps you miss my point. Americans won't do it because Obama would have too much partisan support to pull it off. Just as Bush would have had too much partisan support were the concerned at the time to have attempted to impeach him.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post

    Greetings, Lord of Planar.

    Yes, I've read a portion of it, and had to stop. I was surprised to see that Schumer, who lives in New York, would be the one to present anything about immigration reform in the Southwestern States, though. I read about billions of dollars being allocated to building fences, and double fences, which seems a lot like closing the barn door a little late, but that's just my perception. Maybe if I can finish reading S-744, I will come to understand more than I do now. Or maybe not....

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Lord of Planar.

    Yes, I've read a portion of it, and had to stop. I was surprised to see that Schumer, who lives in New York, would be the one to present anything about immigration reform in the Southwestern States, though. I read about billions of dollars being allocated to building fences, and double fences, which seems a lot like closing the barn door a little late, but that's just my perception. Maybe if I can finish reading S-744, I will come to understand more than I do now. Or maybe not....
    Evening Polgara,

    Yep, pretty much. However the amount of money spent on apprehension, housing food and deportation of illegal immigrants over the past 60 years by both republican and democratic administrations would likely have built an impenetrable fence along our southern border. Neither party is motivated to stop illegal immigration. Illegal immigration provides cheap labor for big business and drives down wages on American workers. And both parties pander to big business. So there will be no comprehensive border security regardless of who's in the WH, and party finger pointing won't secure the borders either.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Republicons in the house are like the defendant who having just killed his parents throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.
    If Bohner would bring any kind of immigration bill to the floor there would be no need of Executive Orders... the president will work with him and find a compromise...you know like the system is supposed to work.
    The do nothing house is interested in only one thing...obstruction.
    Watch for a campaign to point this out in the upcoming mid-term elections.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Republicons in the house are like the defendant who having just killed his parents throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.
    If Bohner would bring any kind of immigration bill to the floor the president will work with him and find a compromise...you know like the system is supposed to work.
    The do nothing house is interested in only one thing...obstruction.
    Watch for a campaign to point this out in the upcoming mid-term elections.
    Obama articulated that point quite well in his speech yesterday. Sadly though, any compromise bill that did pass would have very little effect on illegal immigration.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama articulated that point quite well in his speech yesterday. Sadly though, any compromise bill that did pass would have very little effect on illegal immigration.
    How will we ever know that?
    Bohner won't bring a bill to the floor to find out.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    How will we ever know that?
    Bohner won't bring a bill to the floor to find out.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Republicons in the house are like the defendant who having just killed his parents throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.
    If Bohner would bring any kind of immigration bill to the floor there would be no need of Executive Orders... the president will work with him and find a compromise...you know like the system is supposed to work.
    The do nothing house is interested in only one thing...obstruction.
    Watch for a campaign to point this out in the upcoming mid-term elections.
    Have you stopped to consider that it's very possible that the House will be cheered by a majority of Americans! I hope it does become a campaign issue - we don't need an invasion of sick and/or diseased illegals to step in front of those who are obeying the law by entering legally! What "compromise" do you expect on that?

    Greetings, Buck Ewer.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Have you stopped to consider that it's very possible that the House will be cheered by a majority of Americans! I hope it does become a campaign issue - we don't need an invasion of sick and/or diseased illegals to step in front of those who are obeying the law by entering legally! What "compromise" do you expect on that?

    Greetings, Buck Ewer.
    So...if you think that a majority of the House would vote against immigration reform, then why doesn't Boehner allow a vote?

    And if you'll recall, in the 2012 election, Democratic members of the House received about a million more votes than the Republican members did...but thanks to gerrymandering, the GOP kept its majority. The GOP is not interested in majority rule - it's interested only in GOP rule.
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