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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    They should be sent back. Children need to be with their parents.
    That's true. We can look at the problems of our own (USA) children for proof of that.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I agree, but we have to careful with that line of reasoning. Pelosi would love to bring the parents here because parents deserve to be with their children. Our continued sovereignty requires secure borders and a defined path to immigration. Not all who show up at my door gain entry.
    I absolutely agree that parents deserve to be with their children - so why did they ever allow them to leave the "security and warmth of loving hearth and home" in the first place? Some of those kids are young, and using them as pawns to gain something for themselves tells me a lot about how they think! Is life really that cheap that it's okay to take a gamble that some children might not survive a 1200 mile trip? This comes close to being called trafficking, and that, too, is illegal! Do I want people like that living near me? Hell No!

    Greetings, humbolt.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I told you in the post you're responding to you can look stuff up for yourself, and you can. Should I believe your CON links? There's nothing worse than a closed mind. You can be subjective or objective, but won't even believe politifact (source of the 1/2 truth).
    Now this is ironic. Saying that I have a closed mind and yet you state in a sarcastic questioning way about "believeing in my CON links". Don't know if you know it but the Center for immigration studies is actually bi-partisan and have lots of articles for and against immigration and illegal immigration. At least I addressed your link and graph...no comments on the content of my links?
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The Senate bill passed was S. 744...
    Did you read the terrible bill?

    https://beta.congress.gov/113/bills/...113s744pap.pdf

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    What does this have to do with what I stated? Or are you just affirming what have I already said to not just Tex but also what I have said previously in this thread?

    See, thats the problem with just providing a link and a quote from the link with no comment of your own...no one knows what the heck you're attempting to point out.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Interesting:

    1986 Amnesty - CNN.com

    Current (2007 article) senators who voted AGAINST amnesty in 1986

    Daniel Akaka*
    Barbara Boxer*
    Thad Cochran
    Larry Craig*
    Pete Domenici
    Judd Gregg*
    Orrin Hatch
    Daniel Inouye
    Edward Kennedy
    John McCain*
    Harry Reid*
    Pat Roberts*
    Richard Shelby*

    Current Senators who voted FOR amnesty in 1986

    Max Baucus
    Joseph Biden
    Jeff Bingaman
    Robert Byrd
    Thomas Carper*
    Christopher Dodd
    Byron Dorgan*
    Richard Durbin*
    Charles Grassley
    Tom Harkin
    John Kerry
    Frank Lautenberg
    Carl Levin
    Trent Lott*
    Richard Lugar
    Mitch McConnell
    Barbara Mikulski*
    Bill Nelson*
    John Rockefeller
    Charles Schumer*
    Olympia Snowe*
    Arlen Specter
    Ted Stevens
    John Warner
    Ron Wyden*

    * = as a U.S. Congressional Representative

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    You know, that article is rather innacurate, right?

    S 1200 was introduced in May 1985 by republicans, but it was not the same after HR 3810 was incorporated into it. HR 3810 was introduced by democrat Rep Rodino, Peter W., Jr, in November 1985. The bill was passed by congress in late October 86 and Reagan signed it a week later.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    President Obama defined his presidency when he swiftly used his congressional majority to push through his signature healthcare legislation. "We won't know what's in it until we pass it" became the Party Mantra. It was the goal of the King Makers who got him elected. The bill was written long before he was elected and was the endgame all along. There was nothing about that process that engendered cooperation. He's reaping what he so carefully sowed. You're surprised?
    Presidents can resort to all kinds of things to push through their agendas. In 2001, the two men that had concerns about the Patriot Act, the same two men that could have blocked the Patriot Act, Tom Daschle, Patrick Leahy, both received anthrax letters in their offices, conveniently! The crimes were never solved. Partisan republicans would NEVER give the Obama administration the benefit of the doubt that such was just a coincidence. Such is the partisan way.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Now this is ironic. Saying that I have a closed mind and yet you state in a sarcastic questioning way about "believeing in my CON links". Don't know if you know it but the Center for immigration studies is actually bi-partisan and have lots of articles for and against immigration and illegal immigration. At least I addressed your link and graph...no comments on the content of my links?
    Excuse me but I never said you had a closed mind.

    But, you know, you're not alone in despising Obama, Latino's are just as pissed off at him as you are, possibly even more, even minority voters are pissed at Obama because they thought he was going to do things for them in a biased fashion.

    Con link; national review.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    You know, that article is rather innacurate, right?

    S 1200 was introduced in May 1985 by republicans, but it was not the same after HR 3810 was incorporated into it. HR 3810 was introduced by democrat Rep Rodino, Peter W., Jr, in November 1985. The bill was passed by congress in late October 86 and Reagan signed it a week later.
    Executive Order 12324

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