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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    No child is illegal and O doesn't need an EO to quit enforcing the drug laws--if he did that, the immigration crisis would instantly be solved.
    If they were not born here then yes, they are here illegally. Age doesn't matter. And no, the drug problem that we have is seperate from the illegal immigration problem. Drug cartels just use illegals because its convienant. Even if there was 0.0 people coming into the US illegally we would still be having trouble with the drug cartels. Or do you really think that using illegal aliens is the only way that the drug cartels bring drugs into this country?
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    That's a news article (that I have already read by the way), not an executive order. I asked what EO he issued that allowed that?
    Really? Do you really want to be that anal? The article itself states that he was using EO's. If you want the specific one then go look it up yourself. All I had to do was prove that he was using them for what I said. That article was plenty proof.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That he did, if he didn't change (rewrite) existing law, the president at a minimum wrote and added his own amendment to it. Probably unconstitutional, but we will never know as no one challenged it. At least in the court system. But I have to admit to me it did seem like the right and human thing to do. I thought he overstepped his authority, but at the time I didn't worry about it.
    No one CAN challenge it. Except Congress/Senate. And in order for them to do it they have to vote on whether to do it or not. GL on that.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Really? Do you really want to be that anal? The article itself states that he was using EO's. If you want the specific one then go look it up yourself. All I had to do was prove that he was using them for what I said. That article was plenty proof.
    Maybe I am a little anal, I get that. I like to read the EOs and see how some of this comes about. I don't always understand them as I'm an engineer and not a lawyer. maybe it's one of the ones covering changes in regulation that went over my head.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Calling in to question the "substance" of the executive order is another new phenomenone with Obama's Presidency.

    Just as with the total accumulated debt 02/2009 and Obama losing 2.2 million jobs his first 3 months.

    Dismissing Obama's low number of executive orders compared to Reagan and GWB is summarily dismissed here also.
    Obama should catch up with Reagan toot sweet and force Boehner's hand on lawsuits.

    How do Americans feel about a plethora of frivolous lawsuits ?
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Given that our immigration laws are statutory in nature, I don't know how in the hell he thinks he is going to do that. I guess this will be another set of laws he and Holder will be telling us to ignore.
    Heya Maenad. Well he did hold up the DHS review.....do you think they should be harping on that in the News? How about some reporters asking BO.....whats up with you holding up a review on the Southern Border? What you scared of something BO.? What you trying to hide BO? Do you know how you look Right now before the American People.....care to tell us about your Transparent Administration now. What Happened there BO?

    Oh and what names are those Meany Republicans calling you now BO? Oh and can you explain as to why now the Demos are calling you names? How do you feel about that BO?

    Cmon Cherry......lie to us.....Lie Cherry. Erm I mean BO. Its all that's expected from you now.

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What he is going to do is called amnesty. Bet on it.
    Taking a que from Reagan no doubt!
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No one CAN challenge it. Except Congress/Senate.
    And in order for them to do it they have to vote on whether to do it or not. GL on that.
    The Senate acted one year ago.
    Speaker Boehner said today there would be NO vote for the rest of the year on Immigration.

    Is that a responsible way for the House to behave with such a grave problem, by all accounts?
    Can you remember a time when a Speaker ever did that?

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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Calling in to question the "substance" of the executive order is another new phenomenone with Obama's Presidency.
    Sorry, I was just a kid when Reagan was POTUS. So don't recall. In fact I didn't start getting political until Bush Jr. I don't recall any of his EO's that attempted to rewrite or nullify law other than the torture one. And I was against that and would have had no problem with him being prosecuted for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Just as with the total accumulated debt 02/2009 and Obama losing 2.2 million jobs his first 3 months.
    Irrelevent to the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Dismissing Obama's low number of executive orders compared to Reagan and GWB is summarily dismissed here also.
    Obama should catch up with Reagan toot sweet and force Boehner's hand on lawsuits.
    As has been said MANY times over and over...it has NOTHING to do with how many EO's Obama has made vs any other president. It has to do with the Content. When a POTUS starts to ignore laws and rewrite laws via EO's EVERYONE regardless of political stance should denounce it and call him to task about it. Even up to impeachement if necessary. Those that don't are nothing more than political hacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How do Americans feel about a plethora of frivolous lawsuits ?
    A lawsuit against a POTUS that is ignoring the Constitution and rewriting laws is not frivolous.
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    Re: Obama to take executive action on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No one CAN challenge it. Except Congress/Senate. And in order for them to do it they have to vote on whether to do it or not. GL on that.
    It is my understanding the republican House has done just that, Or will be doing it shortly.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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