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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Calling someone a name is protected by the Constitution. I didn't think the Constitution granted anyone the right to put someone's life in jeopardy.

    Are you comparing what MSNBC did to Zimmerman to Limbaugh calling someone a name?
    Did anyone say "go kill him" or did they just imply that he was guilty of a crime? The first is wrong, the second is protected speech.

    His claim was that they "intentionally inflicted emotional distress" by implying that he used a racial epithet. That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?


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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As I see it; I think it odd that the media can turn him into a public figure and then claim immunity because of it.
    The case on point here regarding the public figure thing is the lawsuit Jimmy Falwell brought against Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. In that holding, Falwell had no recourse because he, himself, was found to have sought the limelight and made himself a public figure through his TV ministry. Others are public figures even without seeking the limelight. Lawyers come to mind because in the legal code of professional ethics the Bar states that as licensed attorneys they are public figures. So, the topic is not really cut and dried. I don't think Zimmerman sought the limelight for the purpose of becoming a public figure. I think he had other motives, and I agree that it was the media that brought all this to the fore, and now he, like Falwell, cannot hold them accountable. I haven't read the case, so I don't know if there could be any ground to overturn the ruling. There certainly could be.

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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Calling someone a name is protected by the Constitution. I didn't think the Constitution granted anyone the right to put someone's life in jeopardy.

    Are you comparing what MSNBC did to Zimmerman to Limbaugh calling someone a name?
    Certainly altering a 9-11 recording to make it sound like a person said something they didn't say SHOULD be actionable. Just my not so humble opinion. Even if someone is a public figure they can win the suit if they can show malice. IMO, altering that recording is malice if anything every was.
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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    The case on point here regarding the public figure thing is the lawsuit Jimmy Falwell brought against Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. In that holding, Falwell had no recourse because he, himself, was found to have sought the limelight and made himself a public figure through his TV ministry. Others are public figures even without seeking the limelight. Lawyers come to mind because in the legal code of professional ethics the Bar states that as licensed attorneys they are public figures. So, the topic is not really cut and dried. I don't think Zimmerman sought the limelight for the purpose of becoming a public figure. I think he had other motives, and I agree that it was the media that brought all this to the fore, and now he, like Falwell, cannot hold them accountable. I haven't read the case, so I don't know if there could be any ground to overturn the ruling. There certainly could be.

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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are not telling me anything I do not know.

    The Judge's reasoning is still flawed.
    I agree. I don't think Zimmerman sought the limelight the way a movie star or politician does. I think it was foisted upon him by the press because crimes are matters of public information.
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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Calling someone a name is protected by the Constitution. I didn't think the Constitution granted anyone the right to put someone's life in jeopardy.

    Are you comparing what MSNBC did to Zimmerman to Limbaugh calling someone a name?
    For the record it was MSNBC where this happened, it happened on the Today Show on NBC. Zimmerman saw the deep pockets, so he thought could get rich and the judge felt differently. I am not sure he deserved anything, I don't see where he was harmed. His conduct since the trial has hurt him more than anything else.


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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    For the record it was MSNBC where this happened, it happened on the Today Show on NBC. Zimmerman saw the deep pockets, so he thought could get rich and the judge felt differently. I am not sure he deserved anything, I don't see where he was harmed. His conduct since the trial has hurt him more than anything else.
    Sorry I know it was NBC. I forgot it was the Today Show,

    I don't know...I think slander & libel are pretty nasty crimes. Celebrities sue rags all the time - and win. Why can't he sue for slander?
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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Sorry I know it was NBC. I think it was the Today Show?

    I don't know...I think slander & libel are pretty nasty crimes. Celebrities sue rags all the time - and win. Why can't he sue for slander?
    Intent. Did whoever was working for NBC intentionally edit the tape to make Zimmerman look bad? If you can't prove that in the positive, then you don't have a slander case.
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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Did anyone say "go kill him" or did they just imply that he was guilty of a crime? The first is wrong, the second is protected speech.

    His claim was that they "intentionally inflicted emotional distress" by implying that he used a racial epithet. That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
    Not a stretch. They intentionally altered the 911 tape to make Zimmerman appear to be something he wasn't. That put his life in danger.

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    Re: Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Intent. Did whoever was working for NBC intentionally edit the tape to make Zimmerman look bad? If you can't prove that in the positive, then you don't have a slander case.
    I know what the judge said.

    So do you think the tape was accidentally edited?

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