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I asked you to define those making minimum wage and who is poor. You have no idea who I am or where i lived but the coal country of Eastern Ky certainly would qualify as poor. No one forces those people to live under those conditions and I chose not to either. You see, choice certainly applies here as well
Guess it is too much to expect honesty. You buy what you are told and do no independent research. I moved six times in my career all to better myself and my family. I didn't wait for the job or the money to come to me. Why should anyone else. if the opportunity isn't in your community, move to where the opportunities lie. That is why TX is growing so rapidly, great economy, low cost of living, and the number one state in the union in population growth? Why? Low wages, no health insurance? That is what liberals want you to believe but I hope you think rather than feel. People don't move to TX to live in poverty or to have no insurance, they move here because of the opportunities. I wish some of those from California would move back because they are trying to turn this state into the one they left
What do I expect? Equal OPPORTUNITY, NOT equal outcome. Give me the opportunity and I will do the rest. that is what happened when I got my first job, 35 years later I retired from that job and operated everyone of those years like I was on a one year contract. Interesting how performance generates job security
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Yes, and why do you think that is the case? Couldn't be because their aren't any negative consequences for bad behavior? The liberal entitlement mentality is alive and well taking over this country and you continue to spout the liberal line that it is always someone else's fault for poor personal choices.
My point has always been it isn't any of the government's business what someone who has their own money invested in a business pays their employees. The market will take care of those businesses if we ever had a pro growth, pro business govt. Minimum wage should always be an individual issue and if it is a government issue it belongs at the state and local levels. States can set their own minimum wage with taxpayer support and many do so why is this even a federal issue? want to know why? Because it gives govt. more power and most union contracts are tied to the minimum wage increases. Give a 20% raise in the minimum wage and see what happens to union contracts?
I can tell people to get a job. The Houston Chronicle has pages of job opportunities available to people every day and some people simply refuse to work any job they don't deem worthy of their skills set when the reality is their skill set doesn't qualify them for many jobs. Start with a minimum wage job and if you are worth your salt you will get a raise in 90 days and most companies still promote from within, mine sure did and I took people making low wages and promoted them to management positions. some ended up earning 6 digit incomes, not bad for some high school drop out with drive and initiative.
You tell me why minimum wage is a federal issue?
JasperL;1063479858]You give yourself away a bit when you refer to a broad class of people as the "so called" poor. Are they not 'really' poor unless they're living in a cardboard house, bathing in the river, and have kids with swollen bellies from starvation and malnutrition like you see in the REALLY poor countries? Give me a break.
I asked you to define those making minimum wage and who is poor. You have no idea who I am or where i lived but the coal country of Eastern Ky certainly would qualify as poor. No one forces those people to live under those conditions and I chose not to either. You see, choice certainly applies here as well
And I don't know what you expect from the so-called poor. It's not like we have an economy with lots of good paying jobs that no one will fill. These people you're all but spitting on will line up by the thousands for every decent job that opens up. Read the news about a plant opening - is there a shortage of people willing to work for a decent wage? Here's the first story where I could get numbers - 30,000 apply for 2,000 jobs. Those jobs just don't exist, we lost about 5 million of them last decades, and replaced them with crap service jobs with low pay.
Guess it is too much to expect honesty. You buy what you are told and do no independent research. I moved six times in my career all to better myself and my family. I didn't wait for the job or the money to come to me. Why should anyone else. if the opportunity isn't in your community, move to where the opportunities lie. That is why TX is growing so rapidly, great economy, low cost of living, and the number one state in the union in population growth? Why? Low wages, no health insurance? That is what liberals want you to believe but I hope you think rather than feel. People don't move to TX to live in poverty or to have no insurance, they move here because of the opportunities. I wish some of those from California would move back because they are trying to turn this state into the one they left
So I'm just not sure what you expect. That we adopt the expectations of the third world for the ACTUAL poor and anyone who isn't living at the brink of subsistence has it lucky?
What do I expect? Equal OPPORTUNITY, NOT equal outcome. Give me the opportunity and I will do the rest. that is what happened when I got my first job, 35 years later I retired from that job and operated everyone of those years like I was on a one year contract. Interesting how performance generates job security
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TW, as to the consequences, we ALL live with the consequences. 1.2 million abortions, lots of dysfunctional parents raising troubled kids that are multiples more likely to get into trouble, etc. But, keep scolding people, I'm sure that will work out eventually.
Yes, and why do you think that is the case? Couldn't be because their aren't any negative consequences for bad behavior? The liberal entitlement mentality is alive and well taking over this country and you continue to spout the liberal line that it is always someone else's fault for poor personal choices.
And if you want to make a point about minimum wage, I'll listen, but I hope you're not going to just quote those at the very bottom because that's a pretty incomplete picture of the labor situation. I know we've got approaching 50 million poor enough to qualify for food stamps, so that's a fairly good indication of the number of Americans barely getting by, and with real unemployment topping out over 10%, it's not like you can tell them all to just GET A JOB! and that would work because the jobs do not exist.
My point has always been it isn't any of the government's business what someone who has their own money invested in a business pays their employees. The market will take care of those businesses if we ever had a pro growth, pro business govt. Minimum wage should always be an individual issue and if it is a government issue it belongs at the state and local levels. States can set their own minimum wage with taxpayer support and many do so why is this even a federal issue? want to know why? Because it gives govt. more power and most union contracts are tied to the minimum wage increases. Give a 20% raise in the minimum wage and see what happens to union contracts?
I can tell people to get a job. The Houston Chronicle has pages of job opportunities available to people every day and some people simply refuse to work any job they don't deem worthy of their skills set when the reality is their skill set doesn't qualify them for many jobs. Start with a minimum wage job and if you are worth your salt you will get a raise in 90 days and most companies still promote from within, mine sure did and I took people making low wages and promoted them to management positions. some ended up earning 6 digit incomes, not bad for some high school drop out with drive and initiative.
You tell me why minimum wage is a federal issue?