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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    The belief must be sincere and I think the sincerity of specious claims can be effectively challenged, but we'd have to wait until someone tried to run with such a specious argument in court and I don't think that's going to happen. I doubt you do, either.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    90% of the companies in the US are "closely held". This ruling opened up a can of worms.

    Will the government be able to regulate for profit businesses who claim religious exemption or will that be considered "unconstitutional" as per the first amendment?
    It was Obamacare that opened up a can of worms and the SCOTUS should have seen it coming.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I'm sorry but your reading of the decision is waaaaaaay too simplified.
    1) not every employer will be able to succeed if they tried to object on religious grounds.
    2) not every employer is going to even try.

    What do you see as a common thread in the cases sent back for review by the orders to the lower courts in your own link? See anything? It pretty much jumps off the page.
    My reading is straightforward - the words of the ruling are crystal clear, the "contraception mandate" not a list, not a reference to abortifacients, which they didn't spend one second analysing. And three of those orders were sustaining lower court rulings that the Catholic plaintiffs won, and in all three they won the right to exempt themselves from ALL contraception options. There is no further review necessary by any court - the court proceedings are done.

    If you disagree, quote me something or link to something.

    And yes, not all will try, and I assume some that try might be denied. That's not what we were talking about.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    90% of the companies in the US are "closely held". This ruling opened up a can of worms.

    Will the government be able to regulate for profit businesses who claim religious exemption or will that be considered "unconstitutional" as per the first amendment?
    Freedom is a can of worms.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    If all the Founding Fathers suddenly rose from the dead and read this thread, what percentage would immediately put a gun to their heads?
    They'd certainly not fight for more government intrusion on people's lives. Even George III left the American alone until the revolution began. Now there might be another one of some sort.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    Freedom is a can of worms.
    ...... and a cane pole.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    Apologies for the cross-thread post (I think it was).
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I'm sorry but your reading of the decision is waaaaaaay too simplified.
    1) not every employer will be able to succeed if they tried to object on religious grounds.
    2) not every employer is going to even try.

    What do you see as a common thread in the cases sent back for review by the orders to the lower courts in your own link? See anything? It pretty much jumps off the page.
    Yes, the extremists who demand that women be able to choose whatever they want and demand that somebody else pay for it just as glibly want to deny others different choices. Why is Citizen A's right to choose what is right for him/her superior to Citizen B's right to choose what is right for him/her if in conflict with what Citizen A wants? Most especially if Citizen B is paying for it and Citizen A is not?

    The SCOTUS ruling I believe does open the door to more choice. I can see scenarios in which Jehovah Witnesses could refuse to pay for blood transfusions, Christian Scientists could refuses to pay for innoculations, Orthodox Jews could refuse to pay for any medications derived from pork, and we could continue down a very long list.

    Apart from the dishonest and incompetent way it was put together and sold to the people, and the unsustainable expense of it, the most galling part of Obamacare for me is the idea that government is dictating to insurance companies what product they are required to sell if they sell any product, dictating to employers the product they are required to offer their employees, and the people are dictated what product they are required to buy or be fined/taxed.

    In an extremely limited way, SCOTUS, whether intentionally or coincidentally, has restored a tiny smidgeon of choice to we the people.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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