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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Because the employees of HL can't get 4 forms of birth control through their HL sponsored insurance, abortions will increase? How so?
    I must be running in the wrong circles. I've never known anyone one that would just not buy birth control if it wasn't free. I've never known anyone that even tried to get it for free.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that their lobbying will mean an increase in abortions as a result.
    No it doesn't. People who want the morning after pill can get their insurance through the exchanges.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Fair enough....
    Fair enough for Hobby Lobby too?
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    How is it disproven? Obama literally based the mandate on Romneycare and the ideas generated from the Heritage Foundation, which was proposed in the 1990s by conservatives as compromise to Hillarycare.
    You obviously have no idea that we have 50 states in this nation and it isn't the Federal Government's role to provide individual responsibility items. If the state chooses to do so then that is the way it should be. For some reason you have faith an a bloated Federal Govt. that has created a 17.5 trillion dollar debt costing the taxpayers about 250 billion a year in debt service, why is that?

    Romneycare was a state program, supported by the citizens of the state, and administered by the state and local government. You cannot seem to comprehend the difference between a state issue and a Federal issue

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    How is it disproven? Obama literally based the mandate on Romneycare and the ideas generated from the Heritage Foundation, which was proposed in the 1990s by conservatives as compromise to Hillarycare.
    No he didn't. This has been discussed for years, so there is no reason to dredge it up again. Romneycare is a state program created by a Democrat Legislature, with many differences, and the Heritage Plan was abandoned. I appreciate how important it has been to push the narrative that Obamacare is a Republican Idea, but that's just propaganda and marketing.

    Obamacare is the law, and it was placed on the books unilaterally by Democrats in Congress.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    No it doesn't. People who want the morning after pill can get their insurance through the exchanges.
    Nice try...but fail. The fact of the matter is that people who work for religion based companies are going to see less access to contraceptives as a result of this decision. The rest that follows is just simple common sense. Less access to contraceptives always = an increase in unwanted pregnancies = more abortion. They are going to just have to live with the consequences of their actions. I wonder how they feel about the blood that they will have on their hands?
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I must be running in the wrong circles. I've never known anyone one that would just not buy birth control if it wasn't free. I've never known anyone that even tried to get it for free.
    I know people who expect it to be free.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Fair enough for Hobby Lobby too?
    Absolutely.....however, they will have to live with the fact that their actions have consequences that could have been avoided....unintended consequences that I'm certain they would prefer not occur, which now will. It simply exposes the hypocrisy of these so called "Christian" pro-life groups.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nice try...but fail. The fact of the matter is that people who work for religion based companies are going to see less access to contraceptives as a result of this decision. The rest that follows is just simple common sense. Less access to contraceptives always = an increase in unwanted pregnancies = more abortion. They are going to just have to live with the consequences of their actions. I wonder how they feel about the blood that they will have on their hands?
    So let's see if I have this right, personal choice is supported when it comes to aborting a fetus but not when it comes to choosing a job? No one forced anyone to take a job with any religious based company and pay/benefits are discussed at the time of hiring. Where are the rights of the business in your world?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nice try...but fail. The fact of the matter is that people who work for religion based companies are going to see less access to contraceptives as a result of this decision. The rest that follows is just simple common sense. Less access to contraceptives always = an increase in unwanted pregnancies = more abortion. They are going to just have to live with the consequences of their actions. I wonder how they feel about the blood that they will have on their hands?
    How do YOU? (abortion supporter)

    BTW: The drugs banned from the plan. caused abortions-like reactions.
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