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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Great. So pay for it yourself.

    Liberty and equality are not things given, but earned.
    If you work for an employer then you are paying for it yourself.

    ED is a legitimate dysfunction, caused by advanced age, ill health, or some other pre-existing medical condition.
    There's no need to 'get it up' unless to impregnate a woman. If men are sick they shouldn't be impregnating women anyway.


    Pregnancy is a natural process, which comes about as a result of normal sexual intercourse, healthy or no.

    There is no comparison.
    I'm sure I could find one or two.

    Not my problem. Your unnecessary sex pills. Your money.
    I don't understand why it would be your problem. So why do you care if an employees health insurance covers contraception?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's pretty funny, "This group that the same people who oppose contraceptive mandates have been working like heck to shut down in just about all the red states will, if we don't shut them down first, help women get necessary contraception."

    You have to admit that's a pretty odd response.

    And, no, contraception =/= abortion, and it's a normal part of women's everyday healthcare.
    Funny? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the quote. But it doesn't even rise to a chuckle. You have a strange sense of humor.

    This case dealt with abortifacients ... not contraception.
    And, regardless, everyone can still get them so relax.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    There's no need to 'get it up' unless to impregnate a woman. If men are sick they shouldn't be impregnating women anyway.
    Which is exactly why men have to pay out of pocket for Viagra and other ED meds if they want them. They simply are not "necessary" medical expenses.

    Regardless, however, the fact of the matter remains that it makes far more sense to treat ED as a "disease" than pregnancy. ED actually tends to legitimately indicate that there is something wrong with a person's body.

    I don't understand why it would be your problem. So why do you care if an employees health insurance covers contraception?
    It's not an employer's, or the state's, duty to subsidize your sexual habits. I hold to that much on general principle alone.

    It simply adds additional burden to an already overtaxed and overextended system.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Most men are _________ (fill in the blank).

    vs.

    Most women are _________ (fill in the blank).

    Is one any more or less sexist than the other? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Sexist or reality. Seems to be a common complaint:

    What can I do if my husband won't help with the baby or the housework? | BabyCenter

    How can I get my husband to help with the baby? | BabyCenter

    Did Anyone's Husband Help With Your Baby In The Night?

    Husband Won't Help with Baby - Mamapedia™

    Get Answers | Parenting

    My husband won't engage with our six-month-old baby - Telegraph

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...8032802AAUTF6W

    BEL MOONEY: My husband prefers his computer to playing with our baby | Mail Online

    STUPID STUPID HUSBAND WON'T HELP!!! - Pregnancy-Info



    Now inquiring minds would like to see all these women that want birth control just to have a huge amount of consequence free ****ing.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    ....There's that War On Religion I was asking about.
    Since you brought it up, please explain what you mean, bubba?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    No I just wonder if the decision to limit insurance coverage on HL's part is based on religious reasons, why is that not extended to other drugs?
    I don't believe HL has taken a position on viagra.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Is a vasectomy a contraceptive?
    It's a form of contraceptive yes.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Pretty much all you need to know in a nutshell.

    Either the Obama administration didn't know about RFRA or they knew and went ahead with the birth control mandate for political reasons (War on Women!!!) or that the liberal judges on the SC would get them enough votes (maybe they could hoodwink Kennedy again) or both.

    It highlights a constant problem with this SC. The liberal wing doesn't base decisions on the application of law but of their own sense of justice or what should be the law. Thats not what they're paid to do. This hypocrisy by Ginsburg and the emotional screed by Soto-Mayer over affirmative action are prime examples.



    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Do you not know about RFRA, which was the law that SCOTUS applied to this decision?

    I suggest some research on RFRA. It was signed into law by Clinton in 1993. Do you want to know the main reason RFRA came into being? It was to protect the Native Americans (remember - the people who had you all worked up last week, worrying about their rights and thoughts on that trademark thing?). RFRA was intended to keep the government from intruding on Native Americans' sacred land. Everyone from the ACLU to the Catholic Church supported RFRA.

    All of a sudden, Ginsburg - who was an ACLU attorney who supported RFRA - has an issue with its application. She launches into an hysterical hypothetical about gelatin, pigs, and transfusions. How realistic do you think it is that people will all of a sudden not get blood transfusions covered by their insurance? Good grief.

    HHS made a decision to force all employers to offer 20 forms of birth control to their employees in their insurance. HHS disregarded RFRA, and SCOTUS (the honest ones) upheld RFRA< which again was signed into law by Bill Clinton.

    So the ones who made up **** willy nilly were the dissenters, not the ones who ruled in favor of it. Ginsburg supported a law in 1993 that she chose to ignore in 2014.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge


    If "a common complaint" is all that's necessary to make a blanket statement about one sex, then saying that most women are just out after a man's money wouldn't be sexist, either. I hear it as a common complaint, so by your rules, it wouldn't be a sexist remark.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    What FDA approved birth control is best should be decided between the woman and her doctor...not a woman and her employer.
    I agree, however that doesn't preclude the employer from paying for it. Obamacare actually put HL in the middle of a woman and her doctor by requiring HL to pay for it. I'd agree that no employer should have to pay for ANY birth control - thereby preserving the doctor patient relationship and employers can stay 100% out of it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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