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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I guess Hobby Lobby just wouldn't be a good place to work for a woman that wants free morning after pills for their preferred method of contraception. Ain't life a bitch?
    On the contrary, it would be just as good a place to work as it ever was for her. But she will have to - GASP - pay for her own morning after pills unless she wants to use one of the dozens of birth control products that their policy does cover. Oh my. Pay for her own pills that are purely a convenience and not NECESSARY in any way for her health. What a nightmare to even think about such a thing!
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Please read the post by Lowdown- HE attempted to call it a disease, not me...

    I prefer to call it a condition, sort of the sexual and gender opposite of 'blue balls', does that provide a better context for you???
    I may have been a bit hasty in reading your original post. My apologies.

    In any case, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to covering BC as a form of hormone therapy, or if a woman's health could legitimately be shown to be poor enough to warrant it.

    Otherwise, however, I'd argue that the responsibility falls upon the woman to pay for her own treatment.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    No I just wonder if the decision to limit insurance coverage on HL's part is based on religious reasons, why is that not extended to other drugs?
    Church of Christ, Scientist (not Scientology, for clarity), doesn't believe in Medicine or Doctors at all. They believe disease is entirely in the mind, from what I understood from many years ago, and can be dealt with entirely through prayer and a deeper relationship with god. Court cases concerning the medical treatment of children whose parents were some of their members exist in the record.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And I see you also labor under the delusion that the only employees affected are HL employees.
    How so?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    On the contrary, it would be just as good a place to work as it ever was for her. But she will have to - GASP - pay for her own morning after pills unless she wants to use one of the dozens of birth control products that their policy does cover. Oh my. Pay for her own pills that are purely a convenience and not NECESSARY in any way for her health. What a nightmare to even think about such a thing!
    OMG. How can you suggest that the horror of paying for your own morning after pill if you ever need or want it isn't enough to make women go screaming out the doors of Hobby Lobby to find new employment elsewhere?
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    It's my understanding that Hobby Lobby provided other means of contraception. Have we become a nation of the spoiled?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Church of Christ, Scientist (not Scientology, for clarity), doesn't believe in Medicine or Doctors at all. They believe disease is entirely in the mind, from what I understood from many years ago, and can be dealt with entirely through prayer and a deeper relationship with god. Court cases concerning the medical treatment of children whose parents were some of their members exist in the record.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/past/doc...sci/suffer.htm
    Different issue entirely and parents that let their children die have been convicted for their crimes. Believing that seeing a doctor isn't necessary doesn't mean that you believe paying for medical care for others is a sin.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    It's my understanding that Hobby Lobby provided other means of contraception. Have we become a nation of the spoiled?
    hmmmm.... hey.... you might be onto something there.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Mostly Catholics are the only ones that struggle with that. Christians, in general, don't have a problem with birth control even though most do have a problem with abortions.
    More than a few Protestant sects are against all birth control, The Eastern Orthodox Church is as well as the Amish communities. I dated a girl briefly in High School who was pentecostal and was taught by her church that every sperm was sacred. I attended her church with her once and the minister/preacher gave a speech about the evils of masturbation. I dropped her like a hot skillet.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    2 x $7.25 = $14.50. It would still probably cost an entire months wages to pay for an IUD.

    So if it's not a war on women then why is only women's health care singled out?
    Planned Parenthood can accommodate you and your IUD.
    Women's healthcare? Oh, you mean abortion. Not healthcare.
    Because men don't get abortions.

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