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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    So, we all get to decide when the Bible is a lame excuse and when it isn't? Is that what you are advocating?
    When people justify bigotry and hatred "in the name of God" then, yeah, it's lame. And when others, not too bright, try to associate groups of people who believe in God but do not use that belief to justify hatred with groups like the KKK that DO hide behind God to justify their hatred... well, that's just dishonest.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    What's with you being the self appointed thread nazi?

    1) I never said China had any bearing or anything to do with the ruling. Not once did I mention how plantiff morality did or did not have bearing on the ruling. I was making a remark on Hobby Lobby's hypocritical intent when bringing the suit in the first place.

    2) There are similarities to the Bush v Gore which is why I brought it up in that the conservatives justices want to completely throw out precedent as a way to make their judgements and opted to, as they love to put it, be activist judges instead where they admittedly want to make a ruling that creates a law that only applies once or just one way which is unequal and unjust when it comes to law.

    If you don't really want to discuss case and law just so you can control the discussion then you are being completely disingenuous in your argument and your intent to control the topic with a stranglehold.
    I'm not the self appointed thread Nazi. I started this thread. It isn't about China...it's about the SCOTUS ruling.

    1. Hypocrisy? Hardly. They don't want to pay for abortions. No hypocrisy there.
    2. Why are only the conservative judges activist judges? Hint - they aren't.

    The topic of the thread is the SCOTUS ruling on the Hobby Lobby case. I know this - because I started the thread. I'm sure lots of people are interested in discussing China & Bush v Gore. Maybe you can start a thread about those topics? I really would just like to discuss this one.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    This is a victory for religious freedom. In the end what these drugs do or don't do are irrelvant. <snip>
    That's exactly what it is.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not the self appointed thread Nazi. I started this thread. It isn't about China...it's about the SCOTUS ruling.

    1. Hypocrisy? Hardly. They don't want to pay for abortions. No hypocrisy there.
    2. Why are only the conservative judges activist judges? Hint - they aren't.

    The topic of the thread is the SCOTUS ruling on the Hobby Lobby case. I know this - because I started the thread. I'm sure lots of people are interested in discussing China & Bush v Gore. Maybe you can start a thread about those topics? I really would just like to discuss this one.
    So you once again are going sidestep the whole of my post and what I said. What a ridiculous dodge. As I predicted, you don't want to talk about the topic YOU CREATED, you just want to attempt to use it as a blunt force tool to bludgeon your political opposition with... and I think you know that if you actually address what I actually said you'd not have that weapon anymore.

    Oh wells. Dodge away...
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I agree - You should question why the four liberal justices ruled according to their ideology and not the constitution they are tasked to uphold.
    Well, let Navy Pride tell it and the other five ruled by their religious convictions not the constitution.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Huh??

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Huh??
    Don't think too hard about it
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    So you once again are going sidestep the whole of my post and what I said. What a ridiculous dodge. As I predicted, you don't want to talk about the topic YOU CREATED, you just want to attempt to use it as a blunt force tool to bludgeon your political opposition with... and I think you know that if you actually address what I actually said you'd not have that weapon anymore.

    Oh wells. Dodge away...
    What? The thread isn't about China, Rob. It's about the ruling today. The SCOTUS decision wasn't based on China.

    My political opposition to what exactly?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That is such a bs argument. Contraception is easily obtained if needed, many times for free. If an employee of Hobby Lobby wants to not get someone pregnant they can always "pull out" as well. Sadly, such an argument makes people seem dumber than a bag of nails and perhaps, just perhaps --- those that are shouldn't pass on their gene pool. So I agree - Good job Christian lobby group!
    You realize, pulling out isn't as effective, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    So, we all get to decide when the Bible is a lame excuse and when it isn't? Is that what you are advocating?
    It makes side stepping easier if something goes wrong (like it has in the past and, probably, will do in the future).

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's exactly what it is.
    I disagree. I'm not sure how this is a victory for religious freedom. As this religious freedom also protects those of us who lack any religion from those who have a religion and this ruling does not do that. It's a victory for those with religion but a loss to those without religion, so I'm not sure why you're calling it a victory for religious freedom.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Thanks to Soccerboy I now have the correct term, closely held corporations is what this ruling applies to. Or as I stated family owned business with deeply held religious views. Not your publicly traded corporations like GE.
    Correct.

    And furthermore, it is my understanding that the ruling is applicable to 2 or 3 specific to post conception, abortion inducing medications. Contraception medication is still covered by these businesses, in spite of the deranged, false reporting and fear mongering by the Biased Lame Stream Media that women's contraception or women's reproductive healthcare are being denied. No they are not. Neither is true. Cast a jaundiced eye at what the agenda driven idiots of the Biased Lame Stream Media are spouting.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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