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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Why does China keep getting mentioned by either side? China has nothing to do with the SCOTUS decision, which was applying our Constitution to our ACA.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    I don't see it as a big setback to Obamacare, only a small one at best. If you are a woman of childbearing age and you want birth control coverage, quit and go find another job will be your alternative. We'll see how HL feels about that? It's a free country in many ways. I wonder if you'll see a lot of older ladies and men clerking at HL?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !

    You just literally made that up
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Actually, the Hobby Lobby women have less access than they did prior to ACA, because apparently Hobby Lobby didn't bother to check on what their previous plan covered and it covered two of the four.

    And access is limited. You can't argue that taking away funding for something health care related doesn't affect functional access. If I said, you CAN have a heart transplant, that access would not mean much of you didn't have the 50 or 100K. Same here, just on a different scale.
    Their previous plan is irrelevant to the discussion here. SCOTUS doesn't rule on what someone's plan covered in the past.

    If any woman who wants one of those four drugs can't live without their insurance paying, then they should leave Hobby Lobby and work elsewhere. Or decide which birth control method that's covered they DO like.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Reading through some of the replies on this thread you'd think that the SC just banned birth control across the board.

    The ruling basically means that companies that have a religious objection to providing insurance plans that cover birth control to their employees can select a plan that does not provide that coverage. I don't know what percentage of women this will actually effect but I'm guessing it is very low. Not only that, this has no effect on the unemployed who will be getting *free* coverage. So don't rush out and buy stock in the abortion industry in anticipation of a boom in the market because of this ruling. The lines at the abortion clinic won't be any longer than they are right now.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    They haven't lost access to anything. Where in the ruling does it say a woman can no longer get birth control?

    I'm not a drama queen. You're claiming abortions will skyrocket, and now you're claiming that women lost access to birth control. Think about it. That's drama. Especially because neither statement is true.
    Ok....I never claimed "abortions will skyrocket"...that is just more drama queen stuff. I said abortions will increase. That is just plain simple logic 101.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Show me where in the ruling it says women can no longer get birth control.
    Never made that claim.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're claiming the KKK is both a business and a religious institution. That seems a little over the top, but then I'm not an expert on the KKK
    I am claiming that KKK beliefs are based on a theology, just as the HL beliefs are purported to be. I didn't define them as a religious institution, though that might be one way to take my post if you make assumptions.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Non-discrimination laws and covering 4 methods of birth control in an insurance plan aren't even in the same hemisphere of discussion.
    Why not?
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ok....I never claimed "abortions will skyrocket"...that is just more drama queen stuff. I said abortions will increase. That is just plain simple logic 101.
    You never proved your logic, and you were saying HL had "blood on their hands". You don't think that's dramatic?

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