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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    This is completely insane. Corporations should not get to pick and choose which parts of the law they want to follow. People don't get to do that. No amount of sincere (or feigned) belief entitles a person to special treatment under the law.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Only if they say this



    If they were really true to their statement, they would have never open a company in China. They wasn't force to do business in China, and they knew the conditions of the Chinese government before they open shop. So please explain to me why they chose profit over beliefs?

    Its funny how people can place their Christian beliefs in the closet when they can make money
    I'm sorry - would you like to provide a link for me that indicates that Hobby Lobby both has ownership of companies in China and that those companies are required to provide the certain forms of contraceptives listed in Hobby Lobby's statement as a requirement of doing business in China?
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    With all due respect I have to disagree.


    The SCOTUS allowed Hobby Lobby to play the religion card in order to get out of paying for mandated item.
    I doubt costs were the motivation behind Hobby Lobby at all. This isnt a particularly costly health care line item compared with others.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Bull crap. They made their ruling while standing on partisan pulpits. Hence the usual 5-4 conservative/liberal split.
    I feel your pain, does that make me a liberal?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    While I do not subscribe to any mainstream religion, I believe that employers of sincere religious conviction should not be forced by the federal government to partake of a venture that violates the core of their beliefs. Birth control and abortion are two such beliefs.

    Personally, I've been buying birth control out of pocket, for years; it's not that expensive.

    However, there are some birth control regimens, such a Depo Provera, which has a side effect of preventing painful menstrual cramps and is used by many woman for that effect.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    This is completely insane. Corporations should not get to pick and choose which parts of the law they want to follow. People don't get to do that. No amount of sincere (or feigned) belief entitles a person to special treatment under the law.
    Obama gets to pick and choose what parts of the law he wants to follow and if he doesn't like the law he changes it. Guess corporations are taking the cue from him

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Va is awesome care. Vets by a wide margin like their va care. Its yet another example where conservatives blow holes in effective government programs so they can stick to their mantra of how government doesn't work. Just like theyve done to medicare. Just like they've done to the post office. Its history of the GOP repeating itself.
    do you really want to use the post office as a federal entity that is working well?

    ATLANTA—The U.S. Postal Service cut costs and boosted its revenue for the first time in five years but still ended its fiscal year with a $5 billion loss and no end in sight to its fiscal woes.

    The Post Office saved $1 billion as it consolidated facilities and 20,000 employees took buyouts. That helped it to narrow its operational loss to $1 billion from $2.4 billion.

    The agency also boosted revenue by 1.2% to $66 billion in the period ending Sept. 30. The improvement was due mainly to growth in it package-delivery business, which rose 8% to $12.5 billion as postal customers increased their online spending.

    In recent years, the Postal Service has teamed up with United Parcel Service UPS +0.08% and FedEx Corp. FDX +0.07% , which will hand off their packages to USPS mailmen to deliver the last mile to homes. That business is expected to continue to grow. "The future of packages—that's seven days a week," said Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe.

    Earlier this week, Amazon.com Inc. AMZN +0.16% said that it would tap the Postal Service to deliver orders on Sunday, beginning immediately.

    Still, the package business is only about a fifth of total Postal Service revenues. First-class mail revenue fell 2.4% and total mail volume fell nearly 1%, compared to the prior year, even with an uptick in the 2012 election cycle.

    The agency is saddled with a congressional mandate that requires it to prefund $5.6 billion annually for health benefits for future retirees. The agency defaulted on the payments for the third time last year, but still has to account for the charge in earnings. It used up its credit line with the U.S. Treasury Department, which means it has no borrowing room.

    The agency doesn't receive an annual taxpayer subsidy. It is reimbursed by Congress for services like delivering mail to the blind, and it raises revenue by selling stamps and postal-related products.

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    they are inept in so many ways, it isnt funny

    not all of that is their fault....a lot of it is because of congress

    but efficient? no

    well ran? no

    just another bloated agency.....another proverbial hole in the boat, we keep floating....just barely
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    People don't get to do that. No amount of sincere (or feigned) belief entitles a person to special treatment under the law.
    Tell that to the thousands of illegals streaming across our southern border and the liberals like Nancy Pelosi who are applauding them.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Apparently the only way to clear up acne is with the morning after pill.
    Since many on the pro-abortion side consider a fetus nothing more than an unwanted growth, kind of like acne, that seems about right.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I doubt costs were the motivation behind Hobby Lobby at all. This isnt a particularly costly health care line item compared with others.
    Totally agree. The lack of the 4 forms of BC in the total offering won't even affect the cost of their insurance.

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