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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There's a lot you don't know. Like these health conditions that are treated with birth control pills. Pills that Hobby Lobby are now free to refuse to provide.

    Read more: Medical Uses of the Birth Control Pill
    since HL supplies birth control coverage that argument is moot.
    i can't believe people are still strawmaning that argument.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I have two daughters, one is 17, the other 21. Depends on where they move to. Right now it won't since they both reside in good sized cities that will provide them options. But the future for them is obviously an unknown.

    There are two things that piss me off about this. Limiting distribution of vital medical help. And the very idea that religion is impacting someone's ability to access what they need. And then there's the benefits. Both are or will likely be in health care. The Catholic church runs tons of hospitals...so...

    I disagree with the ruling. The religious folks are inflicting their values on others.
    Vital medical help?

    The morning after pill is not "vital medical help."

    No woman in recorded history has ever fallen gravely ill or died because she didn't take the morning after pill.

    Also, religion is not limiting anything in this case. Not one single woman in this country is going to be prevented from obtaining the morning after pill. The only thing this case has changed is that she may have to pay for it herself instead of having her employer pay for it.

    Why is it that any time a liberal wants something, regardless of what it is, someone else should be expected to pay for it?

    If the absolute worst thing that ever happens to a woman during her life is that she has to pay for her own morning after pill then I'd say she's very lucky.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I have two daughters, one is 17, the other 21. Depends on where they move to. Right now it won't since they both reside in good sized cities that will provide them options. But the future for them is obviously an unknown.

    There are two things that piss me off about this. Limiting distribution of vital medical help. And the very idea that religion is impacting someone's ability to access what they need. And then there's the benefits. Both are or will likely be in health care. The Catholic church runs tons of hospitals...so...

    I disagree with the ruling. The religious folks are inflicting their values on others.
    I have seen this argument quite a bit on various sites and with regard to this particular ruling but I have to ask....Why the heck do people believe that someone else should be REQUIRED to provide them with health coverage?

    The way I see things is you have two basic choices in obtaining health coverage; you either buy your own or you accept someone else's offer to provide it for you. If you choose the latter then you take what you can get. This whole idea of comprehensive health care coverage being some kind of individual right is ridiculous at face valve.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Any woman who works at Hobby Lobby became a second class citizen who's legal right to free contraception was taken away. Those pills are not only to prevent pregnancy either.
    Nothing is free, somewhere along the line someone is paying for them.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There's a lot you don't know. Like these health conditions that are treated with birth control pills. Pills that Hobby Lobby are now free to refuse to provide.

    Read more: Medical Uses of the Birth Control Pill
    Which of those birth control pills used for other treatment purposes are among the four morning after pills? Last I checked, none of the four "emergency birth control" pills in this decision are prescribed for any other purpose.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It is a Federal law.
    No it's not.

    The law is that insurance companies must provide birth control for free. So if you don't have health insurance, no free birth control.

    We also have federal laws about entering this nation illegally but liberals don't seem to give a damn about those laws.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I always looked at pregnancy prevention the same way I looked at sunburn protection or tooth decay prevention - I had to take care of it myself, oh and yes, I had to pay for it. I guess the impact of Sandra Fluke was bigger than we expected.
    It's pretty clear that liberals want people to think that the SCOTUS decision blocks these poor people from getting birth control now. That's the terms they discuss it in. The big, bad Republicans are not letting these people get birth control.

    They never lead on that these people can get all the birth control they want, they just want it for free and to have you and me pay for it.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....in my experience, Liberals are much more concerned about both the intended and unintended consequences than conservatives, who only seem to care how it affects them personally.
    Your personal experience might differ from reality.

    Perhaps if we knew how many unwed mothers voted for Democrats and how many for Republicans, or how many who had abortions voted Democrat or Republican, we could have a better idea..

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's pretty clear that liberals want people to think that the SCOTUS decision blocks these poor people from getting birth control now. That's the terms they discuss it in. The big, bad Republicans are not letting these people get birth control.

    They never lead on that these people can get all the birth control they want, they just want it for free and to have you and me pay for it.
    Liberals lie, cheat, steal, distort...whatever it takes to get their way.

    This is nothing new.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's pretty clear that liberals want people to think that the SCOTUS decision blocks these poor people from getting birth control now. That's the terms they discuss it in. The big, bad Republicans are not letting these people get birth control.

    They never lead on that these people can get all the birth control they want, they just want it for free and to have you and me pay for it.
    They'll segue into the War On Women within 24 hours.

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