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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    I think this decision is only limited to closely held corperations like hobby-lobby, which is a family owned buissness.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    5-4 split.
    Seems about right. Now waiting for the justification from both sides on their views of it. On the base, I think there is great concern on how far that religious freedom of a company can go. If there is a Jehova Witness run company, can they outlaw paying for certain procedures, etc. And does a company now have the right to not serve people based on religious holdings?

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...3-354_olp1.pdf

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    The Government has failed to satisfy RFRA’s least restrictive means standard. HHS has not shown that it lacks other means of achieving its desired goal without imposing a substantial burden on the exercise of religion. The Government could, e.g., assume the cost of providing the four contraceptives to women unable to obtain coverage due to their employers’ religious objections. Or it could extend the accommodation that HHS has already established for religious nonprofit organizations to non-profit employers with religious objections to the contraceptive mandate. That accommodation does not impinge on the plaintiffs’ religious beliefs that providing insurance coverage for the contraceptives at issue here violates their religion and it still serves HHS’s stated interests. Pp. 40–45.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That would have been even a sweeter rejection by the courts. And this is what Democrats get for shoving legislation down Americas throats. Obamacare was held up by the SCOTUS only to have it's legs broken. Limp baby limp!
    I think that is a bit of an exageration that Obamacare's legs are broken. We will be reading about court cases for different aspects of Obamacare for years.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Hopefully, this will be the first major straw to break this bloated, ineffective camel's back.
    Not really at all. All this ruling states is that contraception is not paid for by a family owned company. It isn't going to get rid of Obamacare.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise
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    He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    OK, so I'm seeing pretty much every where on the internet from here to Facebook that HL 'defeated Obamacare.' Not so. Obamacare remains intact. This decision merely holds that the owner of a business cannot be forced to pay for something he/she finds morally abhorrent. So, in the coming days, we will see how all this plays out in terms of benefits for HL employees and others. Will some business step out and claim that it finds any type of medical treatment abhorrent? " It ain't over till it's over." (Yogi Berra)

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise. He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.
    ARGH !!!!


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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not really at all. All this ruling states is that contraception is not paid for by a family owned company. It isn't going to get rid of Obamacare.
    I agree. This is a win for constitutional rights but not a breach in the hull of Obamacare.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not really at all. All this ruling states is that contraception is not paid for by a family owned company. It isn't going to get rid of Obamacare.
    Nothing will get rid of Obamacare. But this decision certainly impedes it.

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