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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I guess I'll wait for the conversation to come up again if you don't want to dredge up the counter-argument. The claim isn't that Obamacare is identical, but that it has strong conservative roots. Thus, the opposition seems more political than ideological.
    I know what the claims are. They've been debated back and forth for years. The more problems that surface with Obamacare, the louder the voices claiming it's a Republican idea.

    Forgive me if I have no interest in replaying all those years worth of debate.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    This is a ****ed up day. Religion enters into government. ****ed up day.
    Just the opposite; A rogue government was blocked from attempting to control the religious beliefs of the citizens.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

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    Just the opposite; A rogue government was blocked from attempting to control the religious beliefs of the citizens.
    Funny how they just can't see it. LOL

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Just the opposite; A rogue government was blocked from attempting to control the religious beliefs of the citizens.
    This is the day that many of us feared would come. This court has allowed religion to become part of it. I fear Roe V Wade is in serious trouble.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This is what Obama gets for trying to compromise. He should have gone with true Socialized Medicine, which would have avoided this situation.
    He couldn't pass socialized medicine within HIS OWN PARTY, which had a control over the entire congress during much of this debate. The "compromise" you speak of was not a gesture to Republicans, it was due to HIS OWN PARTY not having the votes to pass socialized medicine.

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Funny how they just can't see it. LOL
    Funnier how you just can't see it.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Ok, what SCOTUS has ruled is that a company does not have to pay for birth control as part of their healthcare plan if it violates the religious beliefs of the company. It seems to me that only a very small number of companies would choose to not offer birth control coverage as its much cheaper to pay for contraception than to pay for child birth.

    Just the same, being you can get a prescription for the pill as a generic at Target for 4 dollars, what is the big deal? It is cheaper to pay for the pill out of pocket than to pay for the prescription copay on most plans anyway.
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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Funny how they just can't see it. LOL

    No, there's nothing funny about it at all.


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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I know what the claims are. They've been debated back and forth for years. The more problems that surface with Obamacare, the louder the voices claiming it's a Republican idea.

    Forgive me if I have no interest in replaying all those years worth of debate.
    Okay, for anyone interested in looking up the history of the mandate, please follow this link:

    The Tortuous History of Conservatives and the Individual Mandate - Forbes

    Newt Gingrich, who was House Minority Leader in 1993, was also in favor of an individual mandate in those days. Gingrich continued to support a federal individual mandate as recently as May of last year.

    It would seem that 1990s conservatives weren’t concerned with the constitutional implications of allowing Congress to force people to buy a private product. “I don’t remember that being raised at all,” Mark Pauly told Ezra Klein last year. “The way it was viewed by the Congressional Budget Office in 1994 was, effectively, as a tax…So I’ve been surprised by that argument.”
    Here's a clip of Obama proposing the federal mandate to conservatives in 2008:


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    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Good for them; I like the union decision even better.
    Yes today was a great day and with the holiday coming up and this weekend is my son's bday , it's going to be a great week.

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