Page 109 of 129 FirstFirst ... 95999107108109110111119 ... LastLast
Results 1,081 to 1,090 of 1290

Thread: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge[W:513,870]

  1. #1081
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's a mystery, what with the recession and high unemployment why any poor person with limited skills doesn't hold out for $20, $30 bucks an hour, full medical, no deductible. You should tell the millions of workers in necessary, low wage jobs that make this economy work that they need to just get a better job if they want health care.
    Do you think with the brain God gave you or simply the heart? Where does personal responsibility rest in your world? People have no problem buying the things they want but when it comes to the things they need it is someone else's responsibility to buy those.

    Those so called poor people in this country still have color TV's, cell phones, pagers, air conditioning, many have computers and now can live off the taxpayers for 2 years with unemployment benefits. Quite frankly I am getting sick and tired of the entitlement mentality you and others exert here and total lack of understanding of personal responsibility. You don't seem to get it, business is not in business to employ you or anyone else nor to provide you with whatever wage you need to live on. You like me when I started out need to adjust your living expenses to the wages you are paid and not demand more simply because you want something else to buy.

    You don't seem to have any problem with someone else paying for that which you think you need. Pretty simple, you don't want to buy your contraceptives, don't have sex or live with the consequences if you choose to have sex.

    You always broad brush everything, any idea how many people actually make the federal minimum wage and who those people are? Don't you think you should find out before spouting your opinions?

  2. #1082
    Sage
    disneydude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,129

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    not really. the SCOTUS majority was pretty much set that this was it. i posted what they said and you cut it off to continue an argument. question is why you did that.
    saving bandwidth......you are correct that the decision limited it to contraceptives, but anyone who has attended law school or otherwise studied jurisprudence understands how thing operate. The conservative lobby will seek to expand this ruling (just as the left seeks to expand other rulings)...its how our system of jurisprudence operates.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

  3. #1083
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:33 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    21,730

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Insurance has been regulated so that the customer could have a reasonable expectation of what he/she was buying--truth in advertising and all that. But it has NEVER been regulated like it has been regulated under Obamacare. We have never had our liberties, choices, options, and opportunities restricted about anything as they are under Obamacare. And Obama's race or ethnicity has nothing to do with it so far as I am concerned. Why are you so conscious of it that you felt it necessary to bring it up?
    The point is it's not the end of the world, but every dang thing Obama does is the end of the country as we know it. I don't know why because it's sure as heck not related to actual policy changes. Goodness, our seniors have a government mandated, shoved down their throat, single payer one size fits all government healthcare system and they LOVE it. The five most free economies on the planet have FAR higher regulations on healthcare than we do, and their world isn't ending either. The sky is falling, "THERE'S A WOLF!!!" rhetoric just gets tiring, and I tune it out.

  4. #1084
    Educator
    mtm1963's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    05-25-17 @ 04:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    1,067

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh...I agree that there is rhetoric on both sides misinterpreting the opinion....which is why I invite everyone to read the court's opinion for themselves. I would agree that it is a victory for conservative religious groups.
    well the is thing is, they are not getting something they didn't already have DD.
    Go Vols

  5. #1085
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Theoretical Physics Lab
    Last Seen
    01-06-15 @ 11:06 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    25,120

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Freedom trumps socialism. It's a good day.

  6. #1086
    Traveler

    Jack Hays's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Williamsburg, Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,755
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which doesn't change the sentiment. No woman upset about that gives a **** about that.
    I need not take irrationality seriously.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

  7. #1087
    Educator
    mtm1963's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    05-25-17 @ 04:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    1,067

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    All elections are like no others.
    Please assume that Republicans will turn out as in the past and DEMs won't, as an "independent" from TN might .
    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Without a 5-4 ruling to give the 2000 election to Bush, which gave us Roberts and Alito,
    you'd be decrying this 6-3 vote against Hobby Lobby.




    Make no mistake--the ruling is a bastardization of the 1st amendment.
    It's about religious groups forcing their will on others, the reason why we left the King of England .
    it's about choice!

    isn't that what the court decided? choice to say no, choice to say yes?
    Go Vols

  8. #1088
    Traveler

    Jack Hays's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Williamsburg, Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,755
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Courts can make mistakes and rulings can be overturned and the laws can be changed. - Moot



    Psst....the court based it's ruling on statutory law...not the constitution.
    I'm aware of that. Just highlighting the final arbiter role of SCOTUS.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

  9. #1089
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    JasperL;1063479661]First of all, since when does having insurance you EARN at work constitute someone 'paying' for anything healthcare related. When I was an employee, I earned those benefits and when I went to the doctor and got a shot or they stitched up a wound, no one GAVE that to me or paid that on my behalf any more than they gave me my monthly salary. So why in the world is contraception different?
    Business is under no obligation to provide you with anything other than an equal opportunity to earn as much as the market will bear. They are not nor should they be forced to provide you or anyone else with insurance. It is the market that demanded employers do that and it is the market that will put businesses out of business if they don't meet the demands of their customers. Insurance is a cost that is paid by the consumers and if business cannot recover those costs you have a more serious problem, no job

    Let's rewrite that and address it to the 10s of millions of employees out there, "Are you really this selfish and expect someone else to pay for your cancer treatment/diabetes drugs/cholesterol meds? Heck, if your employer doesn't pay, from the insurance you EARNED at work, just stand in line for 3 hours at the local free clinic once a month and get your prescription filled for free!"
    Life is a bitch, isn't it, just like personal responsibility. My wife died of cancer but was never denied treatment and got the best treatment Houston had to offer. You don't seem to have any concept as to the role of business, the purpose of business, nor the responsibilities of business. Ever think of finding a country more to your liking? You don't earn insurance, you take a job that offers insurance or don't take the job.

    Just call them slut pills and we'll all understand right wing thinking on this issue.
    No, I prefer to call those women who have unprotected sex, demanding others to pay for it the sluts.

    Second, I am responsible for my actions. I am self employed, have a paid off house, etc. So no need to lecture me. But lecturing women, and especially poor women, might make you feel good but it's not going to help any when you throw up barriers and make it harder for them to be responsible. I'll repeat it again, we have about 1.2 million (last time I checked) abortions per year. Lecturing isn't working. If you have another idea, great.
    Good, since you are responsible for your own actions, why aren't others. Is it because you are so much smarter than others. Please don't tell me that you really give a damn about someone else and what insurance they have, you simply want the issue like most liberals.

    It really does make me feel good to starve kids, kills seniors, and pollute the air, that is why I give more to charity than you probably make. I don't believe that is the role of a bureaucrat in D.C. operating on a 3.8 TRILLION Dollar budget. I simply wish people like you would get a clue and stop looking to the Federal Govt. to provide you with what you want. The real people getting screwed here aren't the sluts, it is the American taxpayer who is paying for this bull****.

  10. #1090
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby in contraceptive mandate challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The point is it's not the end of the world, but every dang thing Obama does is the end of the country as we know it. I don't know why because it's sure as heck not related to actual policy changes. Goodness, our seniors have a government mandated, shoved down their throat, single payer one size fits all government healthcare system and they LOVE it. The five most free economies on the planet have FAR higher regulations on healthcare than we do, and their world isn't ending either. The sky is falling, "THERE'S A WOLF!!!" rhetoric just gets tiring, and I tune it out.
    Got it, that is why Obama's JAR is so great and why healthcare is so highly supported. This country has over 312 million people in 50 sovereign states. You want a one size fits all program for all those states? does it cost as much in Tenn as it does in Illinois to live and for healthcare? Healthcare is not only an individual responsibility but it varies by state in terms of costs. One size fits all sounds great but all it does is give bureaucrats more money and power. Doesn't seem to bother you as long is it is perceived as spending in the name of compassion. Tell me, where are those compassionate results?

    Our Seniors are being screwed by Medicare. I turned 65 three years ago and went from private insurance to Medicare. You are in for quite a surprise, an unpleasant one, when you turn 65. Another liberal utopian program that is not only bankrupt, but poorly managed, poorly administered, and one that short changes liberals. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •