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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Yeah, til that crosses over into physically blocking people from entering a clinic, lobbing objects at people entering clinics, following people from the clinics to their homes or places of business, pushing, shoving, touching, etc..
    I see local police departments making arrests of pro lifers for harassment, obstruction, assault, the SCOTUS just opened a can of worms. You know many pro lifers aren't all that peaceful when it comes to confronting people, yes?
    This is ridiculous. AGAIN, you are talking about assault which is illegal.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You said "which may get out of hand." So what did you mean by that statement then? What was your point? If you are going to put rules on ONE group of protesters, then the same rules must apply to ALL protesters.
    Read post # 57 over again for some general description.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is ridiculous. AGAIN, you are talking about assault which is illegal.
    Yes, Exactly ridiculous, which is why I think you missed something here, go back in the thread and read the post/s I responded to.

    I know assault is illegal, but that's what pro lifers do, they attempt to intimidate people going to clinics.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Read post # 57 over again for some general description.
    Post #57 is bupkus.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan
    Accosting and confronting isn't illegal.
    By definition you're wrong. Someone being accosted could (depending on the circumstance) be charged with battery, which is against the law. Proof? Why sure....

    Definition of Battery:
    battery legal definition of battery. battery synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    Tell me more about #57 and how confrontation couldn't be illegal especially when confrontation provided intent. Then all one needs to do is say the other person touched them inappropriately - or in any way. An injury or bruise is not required.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The most committed pro-lifers and the most committed pro-choicers are equally disruptive. Free speech is not necessarily comfortable.
    We're not talking peaceful demonstrations for pro lifers, we're talking about them becoming down right nasty.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    We're not talking peaceful demonstrations for pro lifers, we're talking about them becoming down right nasty.
    Pro-choicers get just as nasty. Both sides believe deeply. That's freedom.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Post #57 is bupkus.

    By definition you're wrong. Someone being accosted could (depending on the circumstance) be charged with battery, which is against the law. Proof? Why sure....

    Definition of Battery:
    battery legal definition of battery. battery synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    Tell me more about #57 and how confrontation couldn't be illegal especially when confrontation provided intent. Then all one needs to do is say the other person touched them inappropriately - or in any way. An injury or bruise is not required.
    Fail. You're wrong. Confronting or accosting is not battery.

    con·front
    kənˈfrənt/Submit
    verb
    meet (someone) face to face with hostile or argumentative intent.

    ac·cost
    əˈkôst,əˈkäst/Submit
    verb
    approach and address (someone) boldly or aggressively.

    Battery is a criminal offense involving unlawful physical contact, distinct from assault which is the act of creating apprehension of such contact.

    The first two and definitions are perfectly legal.

    The third, battery is unlawful contact.

    learn the differences, until people do learn the differences, they might be looking at fines or jail time.

    To clarify;

    Battery At common law, an intentional unpermitted act causing harmful or offensive contact with the "person" of another.

    Battery is concerned with the right to have one's body left alone by others.

    Battery is both a tort and a crime. Its essential element, harmful or offensive contact, is the same in both areas of the law. The main distinction between the two categories lies in the penalty imposed. A defendant sued for a tort is civilly liable to the plaintiff for damages. The punishment for criminal battery is a fine, imprisonment, or both. Usually battery is prosecuted as a crime only in cases involving serious harm to the victim.
    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/battery
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Yeah, til that crosses over into physically blocking people from entering a clinic, lobbing objects at people entering clinics, following people from the clinics to their homes or places of business, pushing, shoving, touching, etc..
    I see local police departments making arrests of pro lifers for harassment, obstruction, assault, the SCOTUS just opened a can of worms. You know many pro lifers aren't all that peaceful when it comes to confronting people, yes?
    Have you personally observed harassment, obstruction, and assault? If so, in which American cities and when?

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Have you personally observed harassment, obstruction, and assault? If so, in which American cities and when?
    Harassment in my city @ Planned Parenthood. Pro lifers really got into people's faces who were trying to enter the clinic. Not even an abortion clinic.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Fail. You're wrong. Confronting or accosting is not battery.
    I've just proven it can be. You're opinion is fine, but you don't get to redefine the facts. Fail on your own time not mine.
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