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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

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    I'll wait for you to demonstrate anything other than anecdotal evidence.
    International adoptions are only 25% of the total.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    International adoptions are only 25% of the total.

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    Lol, good stuff - too bad it has nothing to do with what we're discussing. 25% of total adoptions would mean there is 33% overlap between intercountry adoptions and adoptions of US citizen. 50% of those which again overlap in the age department. You're way out of your league here Jack.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, good stuff - too bad it has nothing to do with what we're discussing. 25% of total adoptions would mean there is 33% overlap between intercountry adoptions and adoptions of US citizen. 50% of those which again overlap in the age department. You're way out of your league here Jack.
    I'm not the one impugning the motives of people who only want to provide loving homes for children. I'm pretty comfortable where I am.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'm not the one impugning the motives of people who only want to provide loving homes for children. I'm pretty comfortable where I am.
    The numbers show what people want Jack. You said they want babies and yet in 33% of cases, people pick foreign born babies 50% of the time. Why is that? The exoticism factor.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The numbers show what people want Jack. You said they want babies and yet in 33% of cases, people pick foreign born babies 50% of the time. Why is that? The exoticism factor.
    As I posted earlier, I know several people who adopted internationally. All did so only after coming up empty in repeated attempts to adopt in the US. Given the expense and very real possibility of fraud, no one goes the international route if they don't have to. I think your figures are faulty.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This is a victory for free speech, but likely will make the abortion debate more contentious.

    Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday unanimously struck down a Massachusetts law that barred protests near abortion clinics.
    The law, enacted in 2007, created 35-foot buffer zones around entrances to abortion clinics. State officials said the law was a response to a history of harassment and violence at abortion clinics in Massachusetts, including a shooting rampage at two facilities in 1994.
    The law was challenged on First Amendment grounds by opponents of abortion who said they sought to have quiet conversations with women entering clinics to tell them about alternatives to abortion.
    The court was unanimous about the bottom line but divided on the reasoning. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote a relatively narrow majority opinion. He was joined by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. He suggested that the state could pursue other alternatives.
    Justice Antonin Scalia, in a concurrence joined by Justices Anthony M. Kennedy and Clarence Thomas, said the majority’s approach was too tentative. The law, he said, is “unconstitutional root and branch.”
    Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. filed a separate concurrence.

    I am sorry to say that I have to agree with you. Sometimes in reality free speech comes at a cost which by all human decency we shouldn't have to bear. Westboro Baptists and Operation Rescue are two really awful organizations whose "speech" in their respective contexts really doesn't contribute much to the 'Marketplace of Ideas'. Nevertheless, we must protect their speech in order to ensure the Marketplace of Ideas is protected. Bitter pill to swallow, but I fully believe the decision by the Supreme Court was the correct one.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    As I posted earlier, I know several people who adopted internationally. All did so only after coming up empty in repeated attempts to adopt in the US.
    Anecdotal evidence doesn't get you anywhere. Facts do.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anecdotal evidence doesn't get you anywhere. Facts do.
    Anecdotal evidence remains evidence nonetheless. Evidence you have not refuted.


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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Abortion Clinic Buffer Zones

    In America, all protesters should be able to protest on public property. Putting them inside of a cyclone fence 3 blocks away is very un-American, regardless of the issue.

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