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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Technically they were not in recess ...
    ...actually? ...They were ...
    When one senator gavels in and declares a session of the senate has been called and no business is conducted and no other senator is there, and they are all slacking off in their home states ...that is not ACTUALLY an interruption in a recess.
    Understand you disagree with the SC, but the SC is supreme in it's rulings, your views are really irrelevant. The ruling, as you may disagree is good for America, it limits power and these powers are limited by the constitution and upheld by the SC. Maybe you would love to be controlled by a dictator, but the rest of us love living under our constitution. Thank you.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
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    The floods of dictators would be threatening your life. Fortunately we have a constitution that has checks and balances saving your ass from fading away.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A long weekend is not a recess. The law must follow the technically right option.
    A long weekend is not a recess ...but several weeks of an empty chamber, with a gavel knock with only one senator in attendance every three days, actually is.
    I'm sure that you defended Harry when he invented the ploy to block Bush from making recess appointments ... right?

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Technically they were not in recess ...
    ...actually? ...They were ...
    When one senator gavels in and declares a session of the senate has been called and no business is conducted and no other senator is there, and they are all slacking off in their home states ...that is not ACTUALLY an interruption in a recess.
    Technically? The SCOTUS seems to differ with the "gavel argument."

    In this case the Senate committees and sub committees were still conducting business.

    Didn't you use to watch C-SPAN at night during the 1980's when every night Rep. (B-1 Bob) Dornan would stand in front of a empty chamber of the House of Representatives enlightening/educating Americans on American history ?

    What would have C-SPAN done back during their early years late at night without Bob Dornan ?

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    When the senate was not doing any business and only barely met the technical threshold of being in session ...they really were not in session.
    Well, that's just plain wrong. You even seem to realize yourself that they are not in recess, and Obama knew this also, and went right ahead and did something even he had to know was unconstitutional. There is no "barely", they are either in session or not. So yes, they really are in session. You see, if the Constitution said that being in a very small session didn't count, which it does not, they could just have a big enough session to qualify. So that is a moot point.

    ...for the expressed reason of obstructing the function of government... When the spirit of the law is broken and only the letter of the law is observed ... someone is being played for a fool. Most Americans would agree ... I'm reasonably sure that the framers of the constitution would not like being played for fools and they would agree as well...

    Another thing you got wrong. The Framers would absolutely disagree with you. No one is obstructing the function of government. It's called checks and balances. That is part of the fabric of how our government works. You are describing a dictatorship.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    A long weekend is not a recess ...but several weeks of an empty chamber, with a gavel knock with only one senator in attendance every three days, actually is.
    I'm sure that you defended Harry when he invented the ploy to block Bush from making recess appointments ... right?
    Focus.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Understand you disagree with the SC, but the SC is supreme in it's rulings, your views are really irrelevant. The ruling, as you may disagree is good for America, it limits power and these powers are limited by the constitution and upheld by the SC. Maybe you would love to be controlled by a dictator, but the rest of us love living under our constitution. Thank you.
    I actually do not disagree with the SCOTUS in this ruling. It's obvious to me that it had to be made that way.
    The senate rule change to allow confirmation of nominees with a simple majority needed to be made as well.
    The two measures cancel each other out in relation to Obama's effectiveness .
    Nothing in the Obama administration accomplishments will be reversed as a result of this ruling.
    No one I know "loves to be controlled by a dictator".

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, that's just plain wrong. You even seem to realize yourself that they are not in recess, and Obama knew this also, and went right ahead and did something even he had to know was unconstitutional. There is no "barely", they are either in session or not. So yes, they really are in session. You see, if the Constitution said that being in a very small session didn't count, which it does not, they could just have a big enough session to qualify. So that is a moot point.




    Another thing you got wrong. The Framers would absolutely disagree with you. No one is obstructing the function of government. It's called checks and balances. That is part of the fabric of how our government works. You are describing a dictatorship.
    Sorry no...
    Senate approval of nominations is part of checks and balances. Keeping government offices from functioning by blocking an up or down vote is obstructionism.
    Neither unilateral appointments, nor the practice of minority parties blocking nomination votes were in the intentions of the framers.
    Now they are both gone.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I actually do not disagree with the SCOTUS in this ruling. It's obvious to me that it had to be made that way.
    The senate rule change to allow confirmation of nominees with a simple majority needed to be made as well.
    The two measures cancel each other out in relation to Obama's effectiveness .
    Nothing in the Obama administration accomplishments will be reversed as a result of this ruling.
    No one I know "loves to be controlled by a dictator".
    It seems odd that you knew of the unconstitutionality of these appointments but President Obama didn't, though he taught Constitutional Law at one time. Having lost twelve 9-0 decisions in succession it suggests his students might have rocky careers.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Actually mrobama it isn't a recess because of one senator. Those are the rules, and your dictator got b slapped for violating them. God Bless those senators who chose to enter the hall and grab the gavel once each three days and deny the king his court.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    A long weekend is not a recess ...but several weeks of an empty chamber, with a gavel knock with only one senator in attendance every three days, actually is.
    I'm sure that you defended Harry when he invented the ploy to block Bush from making recess appointments ... right?

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