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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The replacement for jay carney said they are studying it. What I want to know is what this ruling does to all the FLRB made while these illegal members were apart of it. You hear anything?
    Those 3 members of the NLRB are invalid. I think what the Senate will do is use the nuclear option to confirm them.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Why do you compare anyone's recess appointment with ofailures non recess appointments? Apples and oranges, and way off topic, but anything for your messiah right!


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    FLASHBACK: Bush Recess Appointed 7 of 9 NLRB Members

    Source is probably crap, but it documents whom Bush appointed and how the standard procedure was circumvented in most of his 7/9 recess appointments.



    During Bush's appointees, did congress use a horse and carriage or a train?

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    You know, Pero, I am beginning to think that there must be a small group of people in DC whose only job is to look at the laws we currently live under, and then decide to challenge those - one at a time - that restrict what they want to do! It makes me wonder how we ever managed to become the world leader we are - with all those "outdated" laws in effect. It makes me think it's a damn miracle we survived at all as a country for hundreds of years! I'm aware that our Constitution and Bill of Rights is a thorn in the side of those who want to do what they feel like doing, but that's the way it is. I wonder how many illegal aliens are crossing the border eager to get into Zimbabwe or North Korea!

    Greetings, Pero.
    Howdy Pol, I think you know the answer to NK and Zimbabwe, none. But you hit on something, to most people in Washington and with both parties, that is what the constitution has become, just a thorn in the side. The idea behind the constitution was limited government with checks and balances. It specifically spelled out what the powers were to the federal government, spelled out what powers the states couldn't have and left everything not mentioned in the constitution to the states and or the people.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Those 3 members of the NLRB are invalid. I think what the Senate will do is use the nuclear option to confirm them.
    Sure they will, all it requires is a simple majority now for any presidential appointment. But when the Senate does this, it still leaves the time frame when the president first appointed them to the time the Senate reappoints them as being null and void. So I am not so sure what good it would do to sue over all their previous rulings when all the same members of the NLRB, all they need to do is make the same rulings once re-appointed.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Howdy Pol, I think you know the answer to NK and Zimbabwe, none. But you hit on something, to most people in Washington and with both parties, that is what the constitution has become, just a thorn in the side. The idea behind the constitution was limited government with checks and balances. It specifically spelled out what the powers were to the federal government, spelled out what powers the states couldn't have and left everything not mentioned in the constitution to the states and or the people.
    Well, for those that would like to have unfettered power with no constraints, it's got to be a constant source of irritation causing major headaches, and probably digestive problems and the heartbreak of psoriasis, too, when they're stymied. Not that it stops them from trying again, mind you. Oh no. They just buy more antidepressants, and carry on - it's what their lives revolve around, I guess! So the lawsuits continue...:

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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Well, for those that would like to have unfettered power with no constraints, it's got to be a constant source of irritation causing major headaches, and probably digestive problems and the heartbreak of psoriasis, too, when they're stymied. Not that it stops them from trying again, mind you. Oh no. They just buy more antidepressants, and carry on - it's what their lives revolve around, I guess! So the lawsuits continue...:
    Well heck Pol, lawyers have to eat too.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    High Court Rebukes President Obama on Recess Appointments

    "The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that President Obama lacked constitutional authority to make high-level government appointments at a time he declared the Senate in recess and unable to act on the nominations.

    Obama made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board in January 2012 at a time when the Senate was holding pro forma sessions every three days precisely to thwart the president’s ability to exercise the power.
    “When the Senate declares that it is in session and possesses the capacity, under its own rules, to conduct business,” that is sufficient to keep the president from making recess appointments, Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court. . . . "


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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Why do you compare anyone's recess appointment with ofailures non recess appointments?
    Apples and oranges, and way off topic, but anything for your messiah right!
    The appointment by ofailure as you say were done during the same time-frames of the year as with past Presidents.
    And as we've seen with our messiah--another of your words calgun--what has happened in the past no longer applies to Mr. Obama.

    The Senate/House are now forever open as will be true with this August recess,
    costing the taxpayer dearly as with other GOP wastes such as dozens of faux committees.

    Time for BHO to sue right back at ya, since he's receiving zero from the Greedy Obstructionist Party
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    The appeals rulings from cases such as Wal-Mart will be filed toot-sweet.
    Do you agree with the strategy of leaving less than a quorum in the NLRB cuz you don't like the agency.
    Obama has now been forced to go to court and the GOP continues to turn this Nation into a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Those 3 members of the NLRB are invalid. I think what the Senate will do is use the nuclear option to confirm them.
    When the politics are reversed in our future, what do you propose for a solution?
    Or are you okay with blowing up DC figuratively as with other sects of conservatives?
    Will McConnell cry for the GOP President to get his own people in 2017?
    All due to the GOP denying Obama, where all this started ?
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    Re: Supreme Court rules against Obama over appointment power

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The appointment by ofailure as you say were done during the same time-frames of the year as with past Presidents.
    And as we've seen with our messiah--another of your words calgun--what has happened in the past no longer applies to Mr. Obama.

    The Senate/House are now forever open as will be true with this August recess,
    costing the taxpayer dearly as with other GOP wastes such as dozens of faux committees.

    Time for BHO to sue right back at ya, since he's receiving zero from the Greedy Obstructionist Party
    Time of year is immaterial-if congress is in session or not is what matters. Our Chump in Chief-the imperial president DOES NOT get to TELL Congress when it is in session.

    Thank your lucky stars for checks and balances, if we left it up to you lefties the nation would be North Korea in about 6 months.

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