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    Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah

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    Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah


    Less than an hour after a federal judge struck down Indiana’s ban on same-sex nuptials, making the Hoosier State the 20th in the nation where gay and lesbian couples can wed, a federal appeals court invalidated a different state ban – in Utah – for the first time in the last year’s historic wave of victories.


    On Wednesday, a three-judge panel of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver voted 2-1 to overturn Utah’s ban on same-sex nuptials, upholding a lower court’s decision. The ruling marks the first time a federal appeals court has found such a ban to be unconstitutional since 2012, when the 9th Circuit ruled against the now-defunct Proposition 8, California’s constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.The 10th Circuit put its ruling on hold, meaning gay and lesbian couples still cannot wed in the Beehive State. Utah officials can appeal either to the entire 10th Circuit, or to the U.S. Supreme Court.“We hold that the Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental right to marry, establish a family, raise children, and enjoy the full protection of a state’s marital laws,” the court said. “A state may not deny the issuance of a marriage license to two persons, or refuse to recognize their marriage, based solely upon the sex of the persons in the marriage union.”


    Minutes earlier, U.S. District Judge Richard Young, a President Clinton appointee, struck down Indiana’s ban on same-sex nuptials and did not put his ruling on hold. He joins 13 other federal judges who have ruled in favor of marriage equality since the Supreme Court’s landmark decision to strike down Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) exactly one year ago Thursday.
    “The court has never witnessed a phenomenon throughout the federal court system as is presented with this issue,” Young wrote in his 36-page opinion, released Wednesday. “In less than a year, every federal district court to consider the issue has reached the same conclusion in thoughtful and thorough opinions – laws prohibiting the celebration and recognition of same-sex marriages are unconstitutional. It is clear that the fundamental right to marry shall not be deprived to some individuals based solely on the person they choose to love.” While many still hold that marriage laws should be dictated by the states, the growing legal consensus suggests the opposite – that the constitutional rights of gay and lesbian citizens are not up for debate.


    More bigotry biting the dust and the 6 states under the 10 could all have equality for good soon.
    Its so amazing the change we are witnessing right before our very eyes. The ruling in the tenth is HUGE.


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    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Its a good thing.
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    Re: Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah

    Changes/Updates in RED
    6/25/14 Version 15.0

    20 States with Equal Rights and 10 Stayed/Appealed/Pending

    20 States with Equal Rights

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    FALL OF DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Illinois - (ruled on Nov 20th 2013) June 1, 2014 effective
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013
    New Mexico – December 19, 2013
    GSK v. Abbott Laboratories - January 21, 2014 (could be huge in gay rights, discrimination/heightened scrutiny)
    Oregon May 20, 2014
    Pennsylvania May 20, 2014
    Wisconsin June 5, 2014
    Indiana June 25th, 2014


    10 Stayed/Appealed/Pending
    Utah – December 20, 2013 (Stayed) June 25th 2014 10th upheld banning is unconstitutional. Ruling stayed.
    Oklahoma - (Stayed) (10th ruling could impact this)
    Kentucky - February 14, 2014 (Must recognize out-of-state marriages which will lead to their ban being defeated)
    Virginia - February 14, 2014 (Stayed)
    Texas - February 26, 2014 (Stayed)
    Tennessee March, 2014 (Direct US Constitution Challenge)(Prilim in and 3 couples are recognized, later broader ruling coming)
    Michigan - March 21, 2014 (Stayed)
    Ohio April, 2014 Trial had narrow ruling that Ohio will recognize OTHER state marriages but didn’t impact bans. New cases expected.
    Arkansas - May 5, 2014 (Stayed)
    Idaho - May 13, 2014 (Stayed)


    20 States Working Towards Equal Rights

    13 States with Pending Court Cases to Establish Equal Rights
    Alabama
    Georgia
    Kansas (10th ruling could impact this)
    Louisiana
    Mississippi
    Montana
    Nebraska
    North Carolina
    North Dakota
    South Carolina
    South Dakota
    West Virginia
    Wyoming (10th ruling could impact this)

    6 States with Court Cases and Legislation to establish Equal Rights
    Alaska
    Arizona
    Colorado (10th ruling could impact this)
    Florida
    Missouri
    Nevada


    thats 50 states that could have equal rights by 2016 and some much sooner!

    US Court of Appeals Tracker
    Map: Court Locator
    1st - all states have equal rights
    2nd - all states have equal rights
    3rd - pending
    4th - april/may court case
    5th- pending
    6th - pending
    7th- pending
    8th- nothing pending, talks of two cases
    9th- pending (statement released "as soon as possible")
    10-th - June 25 2014: 3 panel judge ruled banning SSM is unconstitutional. Stayed

    State Attorney Generals no longer defending the bans due to their unconstitutionality
    California (Has equal rights now)
    Illinois (Has Equal rights now)
    Kentucky
    Nevada
    Oregon (has equal rights now)
    Pennsylvania(has equal rights now)
    Virginia(stayed)

    THERE ARE NO STATES LEFT NOT FIGHTING FOR EQUAL RIGHTS

    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!

    also please feel free to let me know of any corrections or updates that need made, equality is kicking so much ass its hard to keep up, thanks
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    Re: Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah

    Another step forward. Progress being made.


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    Re: Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Its so amazing the change we are witnessing right before our very eyes. The ruling in the tenth is HUGE.
    The ruling was stayed, and is only applicable to Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The ruling was stayed, and is only applicable to Utah.
    Correct thats what the article says along with my post. Still a huge thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The ruling was stayed, and is only applicable to Utah.
    Pending the full panel, no doubt.

    And really, at this point there's no reason to expect that any court will ever uphold a same sex marriage ban. The precedent is set.
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    Re: Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah

    also heres the Indiana ruling/summary:
    http://www.lambdalegal.org/sites/def...y-judgment.pdf

    great stuff

    once again another ruling referring to:

    right to marry
    the 14th
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    Gay marriage wins in Indiana and Utah

    Are there any rational people who oppose this anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Are there any rational people who oppose this anymore?
    define opposes?

    personally may think its wrong? yes im sure

    want it illegal and what to deny people equal rights? nope, thats impossible, one negates the other.

    cant be rational and against equal rights
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