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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Since when is posting facts a dodge?
    Apparently when its not a FORD!
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    This lawsuit occurred the day after the Cochran DEMs upset the TEAs--perfect GOP timing to blunt the TEA-outrage.
    TEAs know this isn't going anywhere, just like the 50 some votes to get rid of ACA.

    Now if you ask Kentucky folks about KYnect, they'll tell you they like it, just like Cochran DEMs like pork.
    Nevermind that IT is ACA .
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    About time someone did. Congress should have been doing this during Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. All of them have taken executive actions which they are not legally allowed to do. And if congress doesnt exert their power they will lose it. The constitution makes congress the policy makers. The Presidents job is to execute congresses decisions, not to make them. We also likewise need to be suing congress for constantly passing laws we didnt give them the power to do. THROW THEM ALL OUT.
    Radical.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it's right to the point. Obama is well within the the confines of what other presidents have done and his opponents behave as if he was miles ahead of them. That hyperbolic nonsense has come from those who dislike him from day one. Can't you see the problem with that?
    No I can't see that because I'm not that naive. Posting a chart that shows quantity is totally irrelevant to the constitutionality of each and every executive order it covers. Just because Carter had over 300 executive orders doesn't mean that even a single one of them was inappropriate or unconstitutional. If Obama has one that is unconstitutional and Carter has 300 that aren't, then Obama has abused the provision and Carter has not. It's that simple - can't you see the problem with that?
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Since when is posting facts a dodge?
    See post 74 above.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Obama is out of control and must be stopped.

    What are the nature of the orders?
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    No I can't see that because I'm not that naive. Posting a chart that shows quantity is totally irrelevant to the constitutionality of each and every executive order it covers. Just because Carter had over 300 executive orders doesn't mean that even a single one of them was inappropriate or unconstitutional. If Obama has one that is unconstitutional and Carter has 300 that aren't, then Obama has abused the provision and Carter has not. It's that simple - can't you see the problem with that?
    Violating the constitution is not a crime. No legislation or any act deemed to be unconstitutional and over-turned by the courts...is followed by a criminal case.

    An EO, or any other egregious provison, is not a criminal act...unless ajudicated as such. If a EO is deemed to be unconstitutional it first has to be challenged before a court; If it is deemed to be—in fact—unconstitutional, then that ends the matter.

    People are conflating unconstitutional acts with high crimes and misdemeanors.


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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Violating the constitution is not a crime.
    No legislation or any act deemed to be unconstitutional and over-turned by the courts...is followed by a criminal case.
    We now see the new Boehner tack to the right after Cantor;
    just a coincidence he announced it the day after the Cochran Dems were unleashed by the GOP Elite.

    An EO, or any other egregious provison, is not a criminal act...unless ajudicated as such.
    If a EO is deemed to be unconstitutional it first has to be challenged before a court;
    If it is deemed to be—in fact—unconstitutional, then that ends the matter.
    People are conflating unconstitutional acts with high crimes and misdemeanors.
    The purpose is to keep the TEA-pees riled up at Obama.
    The problem may be the TEAts may run Roberts and Alexander out of the Senate .
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    When he actually does it and then sees the process through...then I will care more then now...which is barely.

    Right now, it's just talk...which from 95+% of Washington politicians means almost NOTHING to me.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    No matter what Boehner does to deflect from his own party's civil war, it won't work.
    someone will eventually lead a third party, the Libertarians if you will.
    It will take a billionaire like Perot to bankroll it, especially to be competitive in all 50 states for governors, senators, representatives, statehouses, local .
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