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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

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    So basically, congress is wasting more taxpayer time and money, did or should we expect anything different?
    Of course not, this is how they roll. Pretend there's a difference, point fingers and gnash teeth. But end of the day, they're same team and won't hold anyone responsible if they can avoid it.
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power | Fox News

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    Leader says House plans to sue Obama



    How can an overly sensitive wimp come up with something like this? did he drink some tea or something?
    The executive does not have the power to ignore laws or to add them. Our congress critters are often guilty of writing overly broad laws and letting the executive "work out the details" but Obama clearly has ignored immigration law and has made numerous changes to the actual PPACA law.
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    How about a do nothing congress with an approval rating lower than the president.

    The ACA was passed as law, not EO.
    How many times has Obama legislated from the White House and rewrote the ACA ?

    And all of Obama's illegal activities sure has kept Congress busy from supplying guns to the drug cartels, not enforcing our immigration laws, lying to Congress about DADT, the IRS, Benghazi, leaks of classified information, social engineering of the military, violating the War Powers Act, throwing American allies under the bus, appeasing Putin all of the time, declaring that the border with Mexico is secured and embarrassing America by working out with one pound dumbells.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    AJiveman, since you posted the video, Obama says this:

    Some [proposals] require Congressional action....[but] whenever and wherever I can take steps without legislation to....

    That's a straightforward statement of the powers of the POTUS. He issued a list of proposed executive actions after that speech. If you have any act that he proposed through EO that was outside his prerogatives, that's the place to debate, not debating WHETHER he CAN do certain things. He obviously CAN do lots as head of the Executive Branch. The limits is the purpose of a legitimate lawsuit.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You just did. Thanks.



    As I said, liberals wrote 1,000 versions of this article during the Bush administration, and my guess is (too lazy to read Will's archived columns) Will was silent or supportive of the Unitary Executive theory and the nearly unchecked Commander in Chief powers asserted by Bush.

    If we get an honest effort to test 30 years of more power vesting in the POTUS, great. But no one should pretend this started in January 2009.
    When it started is not the issue - how it can be stopped or held to within reasonable limits is the issue. Simply because our congress critters (of either party) will not make/change the law to suit the current POTUS (of either party) does not make it OK to override the existing law. "Dreamy" immigration reform is not the law yet Obama pretends that it is. PPACA contained fixed implementation phase dates yet since Obama preferred that they be changed and simply did so.
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Sad sack of course.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The executive does not have the power to ignore laws or to add them. Our congress critters are often guilty of writing overly broad laws and letting the executive "work out the details" but Obama clearly has ignored immigration law and has made numerous changes to the actual PPACA law.
    But, Obama is doing no worse than at least one president,


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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This lawsuit won't go anywhere, it will just draw attention to Republican talking points. That's the purpose.
    Really? I suppose you were just as confident about Obama's recess appointments, when the Senate wasn't actually in recess. Want to recap for us how that lawsuit went nowhere?
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    AJiveman, since you posted the video, Obama says this:

    Some [proposals] require Congressional action....[but] whenever and wherever I can take steps without legislation to....

    That's a straightforward statement of the powers of the POTUS. He issued a list of proposed executive actions after that speech. If you have any act that he proposed through EO that was outside his prerogatives, that's the place to debate, not debating WHETHER he CAN do certain things. He obviously CAN do lots as head of the Executive Branch. The limits is the purpose of a legitimate lawsuit.
    The GOP lawsuit is nothing more or less than a dog and pony show.

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