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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Your thinking is misguided. I felt the previous president went way overboard as well.
    I do not think so, the last time congress tried and even succeeded a little bit to reign in the power of the presidency was just right after Watergate. Ford was president, a Republican and both chambers were solidly Democratic. In fact the Democrats had a presidential veto proof House and were within 4 of having a veto proof senate with 63 Democratic Senators. Since then congress has shown no will to be a co-equal branch or to provide the checks and balances as intended.

    As time has gone by the members of congress who are of the same party as the president has become more and more part of the administration than of the institution of congress. They do not care how much power the president gains at their expense, that is as long as the president is of their own party. It is only those congressmen of the opposite party of the president that seem interested in maintaining the checks and balances, they as soon as they elect a president, they change to being more a part of the administration than congress and those who were of the party of the previous president, now want the check and balances back. So it goes on and on and on.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power | Fox News

    Where did the crybaby get his gonads at? Did he buy them or grow them?

    Leader says House plans to sue Obama



    How can an overly sensitive wimp come up with something like this? did he drink some tea or something?
    At least he's doing something.Are you content with letting the white house step on the constitution? Is the white house above the law? It seems everyday Obama is stepping on or walking around laws that all Americans need to follow. I'm tired of hearing it's not my fault it's George bush's. It's not my fault it's the republicans.It's not my fault we couldn't have forseen this. I just read about it in todays paper, I'm just as surprised by it as you..Enough already, surely we cannot be so nave to believe the bunk day in and day out. Obama should be held liable for breaking the laws that the rest of us are forced to follow. GOD bless America!!!!!

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by 223heavy View Post
    At least he's doing something.Are you content with letting the white house step on the constitution? Is the white house above the law? It seems everyday Obama is stepping on or walking around laws that all Americans need to follow. I'm tired of hearing it's not my fault it's George bush's. It's not my fault it's the republicans.It's not my fault we couldn't have forseen this. I just read about it in todays paper, I'm just as surprised by it as you..Enough already, surely we cannot be so nave to believe the bunk day in and day out. Obama should be held liable for breaking the laws that the rest of us are forced to follow. GOD bless America!!!!!
    As soon as cons begin cleaning up their own messes and their own back yard, I'll put a microscope on the Obama admin. and not before.

    As far as I'm concerned, there is no god, we all have to look after ourselves.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    it is about time someone decided to put at stop to that the non-sense going on up there.
    obama changes every law he doesn't like which is illegal and against the constitution he doesn't have the power to change and create law yet he does it anyway.
    took them long enough.
    You would think so, judging from the whining from the other side. But actually, Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Carter, LBJ, and others issued for Executive Orders than Obama. Obama had better step up those Executive Orders, if he's going to catch up to Bush Jr. He also had better start taking more vacations, if he's going to match Bush on that.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    You would think so, judging from the whining from the other side. But actually, Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Carter, LBJ, and others issued for Executive Orders than Obama. Obama had better step up those Executive Orders, if he's going to catch up to Bush Jr. He also had better start taking more vacations, if he's going to match Bush on that.
    bush wasn't writing laws that he didn't have congressional approval on. an executive order is nothing more than a memo. it can't make law it can't change law yet that is exactly what obama is doing with it.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    you right, it was never about the numbers. By last count that I know President Obama is credited with 147 EO's. here is snopes on what the guy said:

    snopes.com: President Obama's 923 Executive Orders

    Boehner and his cohorts are upset because they view the president as using the EO to bypass congress, the unconstitutionality of some and changing written law to suit what he will enforce and what he will not enforce. In the past the SCOTUS has refused to hear cases like this because it involved co-equal branches. Boehner may have a problem finding a federal judge that will accept his lawsuit, time will tell.
    What is amusing is the issue that Boehner wants to sue Obama on (delaying some parts of the ACA), is the same action that Bush did for Medicaid part B, and back then, you didn't hear a THING about it being over reaching.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    What is amusing is the issue that Boehner wants to sue Obama on (delaying some parts of the ACA), is the same action that Bush did for Medicaid part B, and back then, you didn't hear a THING about it being over reaching.
    What is more amusing is the Republicans fought to delay the mandates and the implementation of Obamacare for a year. Seems to me I remember a government shutdown over this very thing. I think it was first to repeal Obamacare then they fell back to delaying implementation of the mandates.
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    What is more amusing is the Republicans fought to delay the mandates and the implementation of Obamacare for a year. Seems to me I remember a government shutdown over this very thing. I think it was first to repeal Obamacare then they fell back to delaying implementation of the mandates.
    so boehner is suing obama for using executive orders to delay mandates of a law boehner and his party opposed and have tried numerous times to repeal. does that mean boenher wanted the mandates to happen?
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so boehner is suing obama for using executive orders to delay mandates of a law boehner and his party opposed and have tried numerous times to repeal. does that mean boenher wanted the mandates to happen?
    No, what he wanted was the repeal of all of Obamacare. But when he saw that was doomed, he fell back to delaying the mandates for a year. Of course the Democrats fought him over the delay and won. There would be no delaying the mandates. Then the funny part, President Obama delayed the mandates something the Democrats in Congress fought the GOP to prohibit any delay in the mandates during the government shutdown thus actually doing what Boehner wanted back then. So Boehner is suing the president for delaying the mandates which the Republicans wanted during the shutdown and the democrats fought against doing.

    I do not know if the above makes any sense or even if it is suppose to considering the government was shutdown so the GOP could fight for the delays and the Democrats could insists on no delays whatsoever. The world of politics is one crazy world.
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    No, what he wanted was the repeal of all of Obamacare. But when he saw that was doomed, he fell back to delaying the mandates for a year. Of course the Democrats fought him over the delay and won. There would be no delaying the mandates. Then the funny part, President Obama delayed the mandates something the Democrats in Congress fought the GOP to prohibit any delay in the mandates during the government shutdown thus actually doing what Boehner wanted back then. So Boehner is suing the president for delaying the mandates which the Republicans wanted during the shutdown and the democrats fought against doing.

    I do not know if the above makes any sense or even if it is suppose to considering the government was shutdown so the GOP could fight for the delays and the Democrats could insists on no delays whatsoever. The world of politics is one crazy world.
    Can we agree that they all appear to be idiots - something I have suggested many times on here? :

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