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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    This lawsuit won't go anywhere, it will just draw attention to Republican talking points. That's the purpose.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    How about a do nothing congress with an approval rating lower than the president.

    Yes, we all know Rick Perry types would like to have dismantled the EPA.

    The ACA was passed as law, not EO.
    Is there a point there? I really don't know how to respond.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ecutive-power/

    Where did the crybaby get his gonads at? Did he buy them or grow them?




    How can an overly sensitive wimp come up with something like this? did he drink some tea or something?
    Maybe Boener actually reads newspapers and listens to those who are smarter than himself ? Personally Obama's surge of illegal aliens at the border is when Obama crossed the red line in the sand.

    Maybe Boener stopped and read the Constitution ?

    But I noticed nobody on the DP mentioned George Wills column in the past few days while it was covered on most of the other political websites. Why was that ?


    Obama Violates Separation of Powers
    Monday, 23 Jun 2014 09:41 AM

    By George Will


    >" What philosopher Harvey Mansfield calls "taming the prince" — making executive power compatible with democracy's abhorrence of arbitrary power — has been a perennial problem of modern politics. It is now more urgent in America than at any time since the Founders, having rebelled against George III's unfettered exercise of "royal prerogative," stipulated that presidents "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed."

    Serious as are the policy disagreements roiling Washington, none is as important as the structural distortion threatening constitutional equilibrium. Institutional derangement driven by unchecked presidential aggrandizement did not begin with Barack Obama, but his offenses against the separation of powers have been egregious in quantity, and qualitatively different.

    Regarding immigration, healthcare, welfare, education, drug policy, and more, Obama has suspended, waived, and rewritten laws, including the Affordable Care Act. It required the employer mandate to begin this year. But Obama wrote a new law, giving to certain-sized companies a delay until 2016, and stipulating that other employers must certify they will not drop employees to avoid the mandate. Doing so would trigger criminal perjury charges; so, he created a new crime, that of adopting a business practice he opposes.

    Presidents must exercise some discretion in interpreting laws, must have some latitude in allocating finite resources to the enforcement of laws, and must have some freedom to act in the absence of law. Obama, however, has perpetrated more than 40 suspensions of laws. Were presidents the sole judges of the limits of their latitude, they would effectively have plenary power to vitiate the separation of powers, the Founders' bulwark against despotism.

    Congress cannot reverse egregious executive aggressions such as Obama's without robust judicial assistance. It is, however, difficult to satisfy the criteria that the Constitution and case law require for Congress to establish "standing" to seek judicial redress for executive usurpations injurious to the legislative institution..."<


    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Separation of Powers Violated by Obama

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This lawsuit won't go anywhere, it will just draw attention to Republican talking points. That's the purpose.
    I expect that's true, but it doesn't change the fact that there are serious issues unresolved. Lots of liberals complained about the Bush overreaches, and now right wingers aren't happy when Obama exercises the same powers the Bush legal eagles argued vested in the POTUS. If there is a legitimate effort to find the limits, I'm all for it, both for this administration and so left wingers have some idea what's acceptable the next time a GOPer wins the Presidency.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Is there a point there? I really don't know how to respond.
    Obama already stated that he could work with the congress or without, did you miss that speech? I didn't.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    But I noticed nobody on the DP mentioned George Wills column in the past few days while it was covered on most of the other political websites. Why was that ?
    You just did. Thanks.

    Obama Violates Separation of Powers
    Monday, 23 Jun 2014 09:41 AM

    By George Will
    As I said, liberals wrote 1,000 versions of this article during the Bush administration, and my guess is (too lazy to read Will's archived columns) Will was silent or supportive of the Unitary Executive theory and the nearly unchecked Commander in Chief powers asserted by Bush.

    If we get an honest effort to test 30 years of more power vesting in the POTUS, great. But no one should pretend this started in January 2009.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ecutive-power/

    Where did the crybaby get his gonads at? Did he buy them or grow them?

    Leader says House plans to sue Obama



    How can an overly sensitive wimp come up with something like this? did he drink some tea or something?
    This is just talk, neither side of the Republocrats are willing to open this can of worms. Each side abuses their power, and they like it that way.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is just talk, neither side of the Republocrats are willing to open this can of worms. Each side abuses their power, and they like it that way.
    So basically, congress is wasting more taxpayer time and money, did or should we expect anything different?

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Obama already stated that he could work with the congress or without, did you miss that speech? I didn't.
    Again, you're not making an actual point. The POTUS is head of a vast bureaucracy with immense powers delegated to it by Congress. Got that? DELEGATED TO IT BY CONGRESS. So I didn't miss that speech, but to the extent he made an obvious statement that he as POTUS is delegated vast powers to do stuff without further input from Congress, what's the problem? He's doing nothing more than stating the way government functions.

    Heck, I'm not sure whether you disagree with me supporting a lawsuit that tests the boundaries, or just think the question is obvious, Obama is a dictator blah blah. If it's the latter, I don't think you paid any attention during the Bush years or know how government works.

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