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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Dems didn't play that card during Bush did they.
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And again this mantra "what about the Bush administration" and yet not a single example of a Bush executive order that was believed to be unconstitutional. I can't say there weren't any, for surety, but you'd think that the guys pumping this meme would be able to give at least one example.
    Precedent was set today for the next GOP President.
    Dems having the Senate in 2017 either approve their own President's nominees and vote against the GOPs--game on .
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You like to point out it's relevant and that Bush did it more and no one complained, but I haven't seen you quote a single executive order that Bush passed that Democrats or anyone else in Congress or the country specifically claimed was unconstitutional. It has been pointed out here, specifically, as an example, that Obama lacked the constitutional authority to alter the timelines specifically outlined in the ACA as adopted by congress. Why don't you post up some examples of Bush doing the same thing and then we can have a discussion. Until then, your posts are just empty partisan rhetoric.
    Last week, President George W. Bush signed an executive order authorizing the use of military tribunals for select terrorists. The order gives the executive the exclusive right to identify, try, and even execute foreign terrorists, without the constitutional or evidentiary protections ordinarily afforded defendants in the United States. Some critics contend the order arrogates congressional law-making authority. Is there a limit to what can legally be done through an executive order, and what are the means to challenge one?

    Is President Bush's Executive Order Creating Military Tribunals Legal?

    WASHINGTON, July 23 — The American Bar Association said Sunday that President Bush was flouting the Constitution and undermining the rule of law by claiming the power to disregard selected provisions of bills that he signed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/24/wa...rexy.html?_r=0

    Unfortunately, far from defending the Constitution, President Bush has repeatedly sought to strip out the limits the document places on federal power. In its official legal briefs and public actions, the Bush administration has advanced a view of federal power that is astonishingly broad, a view that includes

    a federal government empowered to regulate core political speech—and restrict it greatly when it counts the most: in the days before a federal election;
    a president who cannot be restrained, through validly enacted statutes, from pursuing any tactic he believes to be effective in the war on terror;
    a president who has the inherent constitutional authority to designate American citizens suspected of terrorist activity as “enemy combatants,” strip them of any constitutional protection, and lock them up without charges for the duration of the war on terror— in other words, perhaps forever; and
    a federal government with the power to supervise virtually every aspect of American life, from kindergarten, to marriage, to the grave.

    Power Surge: The Constitutional Record of George W. Bush | Cato Institute

    Constitutional violations? We had plenty with Bush

    Constitutional violations? We had plenty with Bush - Opinion - News Item

    George W. Bush’s Impeachable Offenses: Newsroom: The Independent Institute

    . . . .the Bush administration engineered and presided over the most sustained period of constitutional decay in our history.

    The 9/11 Decade and the Decline of U.S. Democracy | Center for Constitutional Rights


    Lists of George Bush`s unconstitutional Executive Orders

    Lists of George Bush`s unconstitutional Executive Orders

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Congress sucks, but that's a reflection on both parties.

    Obama is a mess.
    So am I. Maybe that's why nobody would dare drop a bomb on me to end my confusion.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    So am I. Maybe that's why nobody would dare drop a bomb on me to end my confusion.
    Well, I'd freaking miss you if someone dropped a bomb on you.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Congress sucks, but that's a reflection on both parties...Obama is a mess.
    Yet Bush/Cheney were a friggin catastrophe--since you like to read that-
    And the GOP has fought Obama since the day he was elected in 2008-
    McConnell's unprecedented use of the filibuster has guaranteed several more decades of polarization-
    while Mitch whined for a "straight-up-or-down" vote last decade, or GOPs would nuke the Senate-
    and where's the term-limit outrage for McConnell and Cochran, let alone Hatch, Grassley and McCain ?
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Well, I'd freaking miss you if someone dropped a bomb on you.
    Is is possible history is repeating itself? Like going back to 1940's disapproval ratings for politicians?

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Yet Bush/Cheney were a friggin catastrophe--since you like to read that-
    And the GOP has fought Obama since the day he was elected in 2008-
    McConnell's unprecedented use of the filibuster has guaranteed several more decades of polarization-
    while Mitch whined for a "straight-up-or-down" vote last decade, or GOPs would nuke the Senate-
    and where's the term-limit outrage for McConnell and Cochran, let alone Hatch, Grassley and McCain ?
    Term limits is two filthy words, please, no more cussing around here, my virgin ears and eyes can't handle it.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Is is possible history is repeating itself? Like going back to 1940's disapproval ratings for politicians?
    I suppose stranger things have happened.

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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Dems didn't play that card during Bush did they.


    Precedent was set today for the next GOP President.
    Dems having the Senate in 2017 either approve their own President's nominees and vote against the GOPs--game on .
    Good afternoon NIMBY,

    Thanks for clearing up that you're satisfied to join the ranks of unsubstantiated rhetorical hackery.
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    Re: Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

    Dont think this is gonna go anywhere. Just a publicity stunt.


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