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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Are you suggesting things haven't changed since that 1994 video?

    Does you mind ever change as variables in your life change, or are you stuck on all the same thoughts you had 8 years earlier?
    Would you be extending the same benefit of the doubt to a liberal politician when he flip flops on his position.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Beats me! That's why I decided not to concern myself with it, cause it'll probably change tomorrow! :
    I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out tomorrow AQ has stepped into the fray to help out Miliki since they kicked ISIS out of AQ and they have a soft spot for the shia or something like that. Crazy, can't be much crazier than being on the same side with Iran and Syria. Oh, and Putin too indirectly.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Are you suggesting things haven't changed since that 1994 video?
    While things may have changed the results in Iraq that Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney described are true and have been since the start.

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Cheney was the VP. I know you lefties can't stand him but its not terribly important. I just posted video with Biden saying we should go into Iraq.

    Now what?
    Biden was wrong, too! More proof that both parties are disposable.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Putin can do pretty much what he wants. But before America takes military action she better makes sure she has the majority of people on her side. If the presidents wants to take military action, he better explain it in good detail why it is necessary to the American people and start convincing people. Especially members of his own party. I would advise after talking to the American people he also goes to congress for their okay. I am sure the Republicans would give him their votes on this, but could he get his own parties votes? This isn't Libya.

    Iraq is such a mess, I hope advisers is all that is needed from us. But then you have a couple of shia clerics telling the U.S. to keep our advisers out of Iraq. That is all we need, the very people we are sending in advisers to help, them starting to kill our advisers. If it were me, I would be sitting on the sidelines for awhile longer. I wonder if old age hadn't turned this old warhawk into a dove, ala McGovern. Perhaps just more cautious than the rest, I mean having been there and done that. Abet from a different war.
    Bush and Roosevelt have proved you can deceive the people into supporting your war.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Would you be extending the same benefit of the doubt to a liberal politician when he flip flops on his position.
    A flip, yes. A flip-flop, no.

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    While things may have changed the results in Iraq that Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney described are true and have been since the start.
    Especially since Clinton kept antagonizing Saddam.

    Were you aware of this:

    Presidential Radio Address | Video | C-SPAN.org

    Start at the 1 minute mark.

    It was known all along that there was the possibility of Iraq not recovering. Maybe Iraq wouldn't have been as bad as it had become by 2003 if Clinton left it alone.

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bush and Roosevelt have proved you can deceive the people into supporting your war.
    I can understand you feeling this way about Bush, but FDR? The Japs bombed pearl Harbor, then Germany declared war on us and we reciprocated.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    A flip, yes. A flip-flop, no.
    Well most democrats that supported the Iraq war have flipped on it. Only the original war hawks stand by it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Syrian Warplanes Strike in Western Iraq, Killing at Least 50 People

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Especially since Clinton kept antagonizing Saddam.

    Were you aware of this:

    Presidential Radio Address | Video | C-SPAN.org

    Start at the 1 minute mark.

    It was known all along that there was the possibility of Iraq not recovering. Maybe Iraq wouldn't have been as bad as it had become by 2003 if Clinton left it alone.
    We should have stayed out of the ME period. Either way, the fact remains that Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney was correct. The fact we toppled Saddam made it exponentially worse.

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