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U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q[W:487:681]

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Montecresto said:
I'm not interested in saving the incompetent in the Whitehouse. My post you quoted speaks to earlier incompetents in the Whitehouse.
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This thread is about first quarter economic results and the disastrous economic policies of this Administration
 
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Montecresto said:
It's not the dollar amount, its the ideology! :)
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You really don't have a problem taking from someone else. wonder if you would feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot. Do you like being dictated to as to what to do with your money?
 
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MasterLiberty said:
Nothing that conservatives haven't seen coming for at least the last 6 years. Conservative foresight > Liberal hindsight.
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What are you talking about? Six years ago, conservatives were saying that deficits and Fed actions on the money supply were going to cause hyperinflation, high interest rates and devalue the currency. None of those things happened.
 
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Conservative said:
This thread is about first quarter economic results and the disastrous economic policies of this Administration
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What are those "disastrous economic policies of this Administration" and what would you do alternatively?
 
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Conservative said:
This thread is about first quarter economic results and the disastrous economic policies of this Administration
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But but but BUSH! REAGAN! But economic results are a result of bad weather and other BUSH! REAGAN! factors. Maybe next BUSH quarter will see an improvement REAGAN as long as we don't have to wear BUSH jackets in REAGAN the midBUSHwest!
 
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RedAkston said:
As many of us not left of center have been saying, Obamacare is killing jobs and job growth. If it is not repealed, our country's better days will be behind us and not in our future. We are now in an out-of-control downward spiral economically. It will be entertaining at least to see the administration, the pundits and the apologists try to spin their way out of this one.

Obama is an abysmal failure and his policies are now coming to fruition. Can't blame this on Bush can they.
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Presidents don't control this.
 
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MTAtech said:
What are you talking about? Six years ago, conservatives were saying that deficits and Fed actions on the money supply were going to cause hyperinflation, high interest rates and devalue the currency. None of those things happened.
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Conservatives expected the 20 million Americans unemployed, under employed, discouraged to be working but they aren't. Great incentive not to put people back to work, right?
 
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Conservative said:
This thread is about first quarter economic results and the disastrous economic policies of this Administration
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Correct and their bad, very bad. Not only have I not defended the Obama administration, I've pointed out that there have been equally harmful economic policies in past presidencies and that partisans such as yourself and those on the left will ensure more of the same.
 
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MTAtech said:
What are those "disastrous economic policies of this Administration" and what would you do alternatively?
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Bailing out unions, Obamacare, the stimulus, EPA regulations, Keystone pipeline, class warfare. Seems a waste of time to go on since liberals like you never accept responsibility for failures
 
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Boo Radley said:
Presidents don't control this.
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That isn't what Obama said when he ran for the job, he had the answers and obviously just another Obama lie
 
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Conservative said:
That isn't what Obama said when he ran for the job, he had the answers and obviously just another Obama lie
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Hope and change were about as real as those shovel ready jobs he laughingly dismissed a couple of years ago.
 
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Montecresto said:
Correct and their bad, very bad. Not only have I not defended the Obama administration, I've pointed out that there have been equally harmful economic policies in past presidencies and that partisans such as yourself and those on the left will ensure more of the same.
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We disagree, I don't see 17 million jobs, doubling of GDP after inheriting a double dip recession, cutting income taxes three years in a row that led to a 60% increase in FIT revenue as negative economic results all at a cost of 1.7 trillion to the debt which was still less than 50% of GDP. You seem to believe debt is bad which it isn't if you have the results to justify it. there are no such justification for the 6.8 trillion increase in debt under Obama
 
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tres borrachos said:
You are correct, Red. They can't blame this on Bush, but that certainly won't stop them.

Obama will say something profound on this issue, like "I inherited this mess and the Republicans have done nothing but obstructed all of my efforts to help Main Street", and the Obamabots will bob their collective heads in agreement, say what a wonderful smart man he is, and that this is all because of Bush, Cheney, Halliburton, and the Party of No.
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And the next thing the leftists are going to say is to fix it, more government regulation and taxation needs to be passed. :2mad:
 
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Conservative said:
You really don't have a problem taking from someone else. wonder if you would feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot. Do you like being dictated to as to what to do with your money?
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Taxes are a necessary evil and to whom much is given much is required. I don't like my tax dollars being used to purchase WMD to kill Iraqis with and I don't like my tax dollars being used to finance social services I disagree with. But such is the case. It was a republican president that presided over the highest tax bracket on the rich. A republican that recognised that the rich could afford a higher margin and still live their opulent life styles.
 
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eohrnberger said:
And the next thing the leftists are going to say is to fix it, more government regulation and taxation needs to be passed. :2mad:
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Yup. I give Paul Krugman 2 days before he publishes one of his usual BS, the Republicans suck and we have to spend our way into oblivion hack pieces, which will be picked up by his fans here and posted in at least 5 different places.
 
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Conservative said:
We disagree, I don't see 17 million jobs, doubling of GDP after inheriting a double dip recession, cutting income taxes three years in a row that led to a 60% increase in FIT revenue as negative economic results all at a cost of 1.7 trillion to the debt which was still less than 50% of GDP. You seem to believe debt is bad which it isn't if you have the results to justify it. there are no such justification for the 6.8 trillion increase in debt under Obama
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Of course we disagree. That was established long ago. And that's what makes you right, RIGHT.
 
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Montecresto said:
Taxes are a necessary evil and to whom much is given much is required. I don't like my tax dollars being used to purchase WMD to kill Iraqis with and I don't like my tax dollars being used to finance social services I disagree with. But such is the case. It was a republican president that presided over the highest tax bracket on the rich. A republican that recognised that the rich could afford a higher margin and still live their opulent life styles.
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Yes, taxes are a necessary evil to fund for the Constitution requirements of a Federal Govt. for all other issues there are state taxes. You don't seem to understand what your taxes fund.

Why can the rich afford higher taxes, because you say so? Why can't the Federal govt. do more with less since many believe the Federal Govt. is the answer and can negotiate better rates. You seem to have a very distorted view as to the role of the Federal Govt. and I'll bet you have no clue what your taxes are supposed to fund. Why is it people like you have a problem with what someone else makes or pays in taxes and not the 3.9 trillion dollar govt. Obama proposed?
 
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Montecresto said:
Of course we disagree. That was established long ago. And that's what makes you right, RIGHT.
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Results matter, personal responsibility matters, freedom of choice matters even if someone makes the wrong choice. Bad choices mean bad consequences except in the liberal world where it is always someone else's fault
 
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MasterLiberty said:
Nothing that conservatives haven't seen coming for at least the last 6 years. Conservative foresight > Liberal hindsight.
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Conservatives predicted 16 quarters of positive growth, and two quarters of negative growth, most likely to be followed by several quarters of positive growth, back in 2008? Who knew? :mrgreen:
 
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Blue_State said:
Bad attachment.
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Here it is. Had to go get it off MTAs favorites folder. As you can see if it wasnt for the Bush tax cuts for the rich, there would be peace in the middle east and free puppies.

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Conservative said:
Yes there is, now tell me which year that was and when we had a negative GDP quarter.

This President was unqualified to hold the office, we told you that, you bought the rhetoric now we are telling you, "see, told you so" It really is a shame because one of these days it is going to be too late to say I am sorry.
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I've already told you, the negative growth is attributed to the abnormal weather by basically all economists.
 
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jonny5 said:
Here it is. Had to go get it off MTAs favorites folder. As you can see if it wasnt for the Bush tax cuts for the rich, there would be peace in the middle east and free puppies.

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Love it especially how individuals keeping more of what they earn is an expense to the Federal Govt. says a lot about liberalism. Isn't it amazing how liberals are so able to predict what would happen without the tax cuts and ignore what actually did happen with govt. revenue, job creation, as well as economic growth? Liberals are good at making wild predictions but not so good in viewing actual results.
 
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Montecresto said:
It's not just a liberal thing. It's something that grips and perpetuates a faulty system. It is partisanship. The blame of all that's wrong in Washington is on the partisans that protect their party first and America second. Democrats hate EO's when there's a republican president and vice versa. Democrats hate the use of the IRS against political rivals when there's a republican president, and of course the opposite is true, and I could go on like that all day. The point is, partisanship is the greatest enemy attacked the least.

Oh, and the Bush tax cuts did primarily benefit the rich.

Ending Bush tax cuts for rich would save about $28 billion in 2013, analysts say.

Ending Bush tax cuts for rich would save about $28 billion in 2013, analysts say - The Washington Post
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Those tax cuts WERE ended. Whats the "cost" of the rest of those tax cuts by the way, the middle class part?
 
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Ockham said:
Then you should look at the pictures from his first term. Ears and hearing not required.
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Why don't you post them? I can't search for what you're talking about. The only thing I can think of are people that were emotional when the first black president was elected...and that has nothing to do with him being a messiah and everything to do with a historic moment.
 
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iliveonramen said:
I've already told you, the negative growth is attributed to the abnormal weather by basically all economists.
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Aw, no question about it, strong economic growth has been stifled by poor weather for the last 6 1/2 years. It is incredible how it is never economic policies by Obama that had no affect on the economic results but rather the weather. We all know that the Keystone pipeline, attacks on the coal industry, Obamacare, class warfare, higher taxes, 20 million unemployed, under employed, discouraged workers are all Bush's fault or the weather.
 
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