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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Again, what would you have done?
    I would have treated the leader of Iraq with respect and negotiated a peace keeping force like we did in Korea. Obama is an arrogant ass who believes he is a king and acted like that with foreign leaders. He lost the peace in Iraq and is going to lose the war in Afghanistan even though he says it is the "good" war. Imagine the blood and treasure lost in both Iraq and Afghanistan squandered by Obama

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Back in the real world....

    There's lots of economic news coming out this week, and the first bit is positive. June auto sales apparently beat forecasts, by half a million units. It's probably due to *cough* pent-up demand from the bad winter.

    June Auto Sales Beat Forecast - Business Insider

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Back in the real world....

    There's lots of economic news coming out this week, and the first bit is positive. June auto sales apparently beat forecasts, by half a million units. It's probably due to *cough* pent-up demand from the bad winter.

    June Auto Sales Beat Forecast - Business Insider
    Wonder how many of them are GM Cars that will have to be recalled?

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

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    I would have treated the leader of Iraq with respect and negotiated a peace keeping force like we did in Korea. Obama is an arrogant ass who believes he is a king and acted like that with foreign leaders. He lost the peace in Iraq and is going to lose the war in Afghanistan even though he says it is the "good" war. Imagine the blood and treasure lost in both Iraq and Afghanistan squandered by Obama
    That's the thing though, man, we don't know how their conversations went. And honestly, starting negotiations from behind someone else's red line I.e. they've already said no to your request, isn't often conducive to success. Besides, pleading, begging or bribing an incredibly lower ranked head of state is orders of magnitude below the President of the United States. Killing Maliki & installing someone who'd do our bidding would have been counter to many pillars of our mission in Iraq. And if President Obama or a high-ranking official from the administration threatened Maliki it would have made headline news & also been contrary to our mission there.

    You can call him whatever you'd like, but blaming him for Iraq isn't valid criticism.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You wouldnt because this is a debate forum and you should respect that other people have a different viewpoints, not imply they are shallow when they express them. You asked what I thought was unnecessary, I answered and you called me shallow. If you want to have a debate about my answers, im up for that, but not if you are going to insult me along the way.
    My apologies.

    Shall we continue?

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Retail sales have rebounded, biggest year-over-year jump since December 2011:



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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Hillary Clinton slams Obama economy: 'Dream feels further and further out of reach'

    In a speech in Washington on Friday, Hillary Clinton repeatedly criticized economic and social conditions under President Obama, barely mentioning the accomplishments of the man who appointed her secretary of State. Clinton's address, at the New America Foundation, was a broad indictment of the country's current leadership, with exactly one -- one -- note of praise for the Democratic president Clinton has called her partner and friend.

    Clinton, never known for self-effacement, began by noting her lifelong desire to make the world a better place and the "driving force" toward public service instilled in her by her mother. From there, Clinton went on to describe the United States today as a very troubled place. Millions of Americans are "frustrated, even angry" about today's economy, Clinton said. Falling into poverty is a constant threat, and upward mobility is almost impossible. "Forget about getting rich," Clinton told the audience, "I'm talking about getting into the middle class and staying there."

    What can we do about it?" Clinton asked. "Of course, a lot depends on our leadership, here in Washington and around the country." One might assume that Clinton would take that opportunity to praise the current president. But no. Instead, Clinton focused on another Democratic administration. "The 1990s taught us," she said, harkening back to the days Bill Clinton was in the White House, "that even in the face of difficult long-term economic trends, its possible through smart policies and sound investments to enjoy broad-based growth and shared prosperity." At that point, Clinton took a few moments to recount her husband's economic record.....snip~

    Hillary Clinton slams Obama economy: 'Dream feels further and further out of reach' | WashingtonExaminer.com


    Yeah Hillary tell it like it is.....for a change.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    My apologies.

    Shall we continue?
    Sure. But I think we covered it. I have no problem cutting defense. But what are liberals going to give up in return?

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    That's the thing though, man, we don't know how their conversations went. And honestly, starting negotiations from behind someone else's red line I.e. they've already said no to your request, isn't often conducive to success. Besides, pleading, begging or bribing an incredibly lower ranked head of state is orders of magnitude below the President of the United States. Killing Maliki & installing someone who'd do our bidding would have been counter to many pillars of our mission in Iraq. And if President Obama or a high-ranking official from the administration threatened Maliki it would have made headline news & also been contrary to our mission there.

    You can call him whatever you'd like, but blaming him for Iraq isn't valid criticism.

    Your opinion noted but since Obama is the one who took credit for Iraq the criticism today is legitimate.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Hillary Clinton slams Obama economy: 'Dream feels further and further out of reach'

    In a speech in Washington on Friday, Hillary Clinton repeatedly criticized economic and social conditions under President Obama, barely mentioning the accomplishments of the man who appointed her secretary of State. Clinton's address, at the New America Foundation, was a broad indictment of the country's current leadership, with exactly one -- one -- note of praise for the Democratic president Clinton has called her partner and friend.

    Clinton, never known for self-effacement, began by noting her lifelong desire to make the world a better place and the "driving force" toward public service instilled in her by her mother. From there, Clinton went on to describe the United States today as a very troubled place. Millions of Americans are "frustrated, even angry" about today's economy, Clinton said. Falling into poverty is a constant threat, and upward mobility is almost impossible. "Forget about getting rich," Clinton told the audience, "I'm talking about getting into the middle class and staying there."

    What can we do about it?" Clinton asked. "Of course, a lot depends on our leadership, here in Washington and around the country." One might assume that Clinton would take that opportunity to praise the current president. But no. Instead, Clinton focused on another Democratic administration. "The 1990s taught us," she said, harkening back to the days Bill Clinton was in the White House, "that even in the face of difficult long-term economic trends, its possible through smart policies and sound investments to enjoy broad-based growth and shared prosperity." At that point, Clinton took a few moments to recount her husband's economic record.....snip~

    Hillary Clinton slams Obama economy: 'Dream feels further and further out of reach' | WashingtonExaminer.com


    Yeah Hillary tell it like it is.....for a change.
    The opinion piece in the Examiner mischaracterizes Clinton's speech. If one reads the transcript, Clinton actually praises President Obama for reviving economic growth (as would be expected, as she could ill-afford to do otherwise were she to seek the Democratic Party nomination). The relevant excerpts are:

    It’s taken years of painstaking work and strong leadership from President Obama to get our economy growing again. But it is growing. And there are reasons to be optimistic about our future.

    The full transcript can be found at: Keynote by the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton | NewAmerica.org

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