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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    What's the alternative? I mean, the right has blocked just about every domestic legislation that would help Americans with the often repeated line of, "We're broke," but we always have enough money for the same guys to want to intervene anywhere evil pops up in the world.
    Your opinion noted, how do you know what the legislation is that is being held up by Harry Reid after passing the House? You seem to believe Republicans are holding up legislation when the reality is Democrats controlled the legislative process and purse strings from January 2007-January 2011. What exactly did Obama propose that he didn't get?
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    You don't seem to understand leadership and neither does Obama who seems to think he is a King

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    What's the alternative? I mean, the right has blocked just about every domestic legislation that would help Americans with the often repeated line of, "We're broke," but we always have enough money for the same guys to want to intervene anywhere evil pops up in the world.
    Again, your putting it in terms of the GOP intentionally wanting to HURT people. Thats why you dont understand it. The alternative is to cut spending in places where we dont need it, in order to shift those taxes somewhere we DO. And to lower taxes so people can decide for themselves how their benefits them most. How do you get "we dont want to help" or "we want to put it to people suffering the most" from that? And Im not necessarily defending the GOP here, but rather the ideology of limited govt.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted, how do you know what the legislation is that is being held up by Harry Reid after passing the House? You seem to believe Republicans are holding up legislation when the reality is Democrats controlled the legislative process and purse strings from January 2007-January 2011. What exactly did Obama propose that he didn't get?
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    1) I don't understand leadership = nonsense.

    2) I rail against the President, his administration & his party as often as I do against the Republicans & conservatives. Why? Because I'm not under the spell of partisanship.

    3) Harry Reid is a POS.

    4) January 2011 is the past, man. The legislation I'm talking about is like the minimum wage increase that was blocked I.e. legislation that would directly benefit Americans.

    5) What hasn't President Obama gotten? Sadly the minimum wage increase while thankfully not getting his gun-control legislation.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    1) I don't understand leadership = nonsense.

    2) I rail against the President, his administration & his party as often as I do against the Republicans & conservatives. Why? Because I'm not under the spell of partisanship.

    3) Harry Reid is a POS.

    4) January 2011 is the past, man. The legislation I'm talking about is like the minimum wage increase that was blocked I.e. legislation that would directly benefit Americans.

    5) What hasn't President Obama gotten? Sadly the minimum wage increase while thankfully not getting his gun-control legislation.
    Did you or did you not post the following?

    I mean, the right has blocked just about every domestic legislation that would help Americans
    Minimum wage increase does nothing but drive up union costs and hurts the people it is supposed to help. Stop buying the rhetoric and think. Who pays for that wage increase? Businesses?

    Again, I really don't think you have a good grasp of reality nor do you understand the various roles of the Federal, state, and local governments? Every state has the ability to raise the minimum wage so why does this have to be nationally?

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Again, your putting it in terms of the GOP intentionally wanting to HURT people. Thats why you dont understand it. The alternative is to cut spending in places where we dont need it, in order to shift those taxes somewhere we DO. And to lower taxes so people can decide for themselves how their benefits them most. How do you get "we dont want to help" or "we want to put it to people suffering the most" from that? And Im not necessarily defending the GOP here, but rather the ideology of limited govt.
    The ideology of limited government? Yeah, in the areas where money goes to help poor & disadvantaged Americans. But not in a woman's reproductive rights. Or in creating new bureaucracies, see D.H.S. Or if some foreign country is being attacked. The ideology of limited government only applies when it is convenient & in areas where the person saying it wants it to be applied.

    And yes, they ARE intentionally hurting American citizens. Why? Because when you, for example, slash food stamps, it HURTS people that NEED the program TO PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. That's reality.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Did you or did you not post the following?



    Minimum wage increase does nothing but drive up union costs and hurts the people it is supposed to help. Stop buying the rhetoric and think. Who pays for that wage increase? Businesses?

    Again, I really don't think you have a good grasp of reality nor do you understand the various roles of the Federal, state, and local governments? Every state has the ability to raise the minimum wage so why does this have to be nationally?
    Yeah, cause when my minimum wage increased it sure hurt me...

    Better compensated employees = satisfied employees = better productivity = less waste = more profits.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    The ideology of limited government? Yeah, in the areas where money goes to help poor & disadvantaged Americans. But not in a woman's reproductive rights. Or in creating new bureaucracies, see D.H.S. Or if some foreign country is being attacked. The ideology of limited government only applies when it is convenient & in areas where the person saying it wants it to be applied.

    And yes, they ARE intentionally hurting American citizens. Why? Because when you, for example, slash food stamps, it HURTS people that NEED the program TO PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. That's reality.
    I am sure you have a good heart and mean well but stop thinking with your heart and use the brain. Do you really believe that we need a 3.8 trillion dollar Federal Govt and individual state taxes to fund help to those truly in need? Stop buying the liberal rhetoric for all liberals really care about is keeping people dependent and thus retaining their power. Nothing hurts liberalism more than individuals keeping more of what they earn thus need less of that so called liberal help

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Yeah, cause when my minimum wage increased it sure hurt me...

    Better compensated employees = satisfied employees = better productivity = less waste = more profits.
    Your minimum wage is paid for by someone else or if it isn't you are going to lose your jobs. Nothing you say refutes the fact that minimum wage is a state issue and not a federal issue because the cost of living varies by states. The one size fits all Federal problem hurts those it is intended to help. If you make the federal minimum wage for a long period of time you are being overpaid at that federal minimum wage

    Better compensated employees earn that compensation, aren't mandated a certain wage by the Federal govt.

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    The ideology of limited government? Yeah, in the areas where money goes to help poor & disadvantaged Americans. But not in a woman's reproductive rights. Or in creating new bureaucracies, see D.H.S. Or if some foreign country is being attacked. The ideology of limited government only applies when it is convenient & in areas where the person saying it wants it to be applied.

    And yes, they ARE intentionally hurting American citizens. Why? Because when you, for example, slash food stamps, it HURTS people that NEED the program TO PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. That's reality.
    I thought we were talking about economics. Again, you may think that is the outcome, but do you really think that is the motivation?

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    Re: U.S. Economy Shrinks By Most Since Great Recession in 1Q

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Yeah, cause when my minimum wage increased it sure hurt me...

    Better compensated employees = satisfied employees = better productivity = less waste = more profits.
    How are you a libertarian exactly?

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