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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think democrats back then resorted to sexual puns like they do now.
    You do realize that "tea bagger" was actually coined by members of the tea party movement? It was only after members of the liberal press had fun with the name that thae red-faced tea partiers tried deflect and sell us on the notion that the libs made up the name. Want to see a hundred pictures of tea parties wearing tea bags and holding declaring themselves "tea-baggers"?

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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Just an update for those interested.


    McDaniel alleges 8,300 questionable ballots

    Posted on July 11, 2014 by Bobby Harrison in News
    By Bobby Harrison
    Daily Journal Jackson Bureau


    JACKSON — State Sen. Chris McDaniel, still refusing to give up his challenge to incumbent U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran, said Friday via e-mail his campaign had found 8,300 questionable ballots across the state from the June 24 Republican primary runoff.

    He said many of those “were unquestionably cast by voters ineligible to participate in the June 24th runoff election” that McDaniel lost to Cochran

    McDaniel promised a Wednesday news conference “to discuss the evidence we have documented and our next steps.”
    McDaniel has said before he intends to file a legal challenge to the June 24 election where Cochran defeated him by 194,932 votes to 187,265 votes.


    McDaniel alleges 8,300 questionable ballots | Daily Journal

    If the 8300 number reflects actual questionable ballots, then there should be no option but to overturn the primary.
    Let me help you with the math: Cochran defeated McDaniel by 7,667 votes.

    Let me help you with the politics: McDaniel scrambled to present every vote he could possibly declare "questionable" so he could create doubt. Unfortunately, 8,500 is all he could muster.

    Let me help you with the logic: McDaniel needs to have 1) every one of those questionable votes to be Cochran votes AND 2) have nearly 91% of those "questionable votes" declared invalid.

    Let me help you with the probability: Its most likely McDaniel scrambled and had a big net for "questionable"... its very, very, very unlikely EVERY one of those votes would be thrown out.

    Let me help you with life: This one is over. The goose is cooked. Get on with your life.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 07-16-14 at 12:46 AM.

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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Let me help you with the math: Cochran defeated McDaniel by 7,667 votes.
    Let me help you with the politics: McDaniel scrambled and presented every vote he could that could be deemed "questionable" - 8,500 is all he could muster
    Let me help you with the logic: McDaniel needs to have 1) every one of those questionable votes, votes for Cochran AND 2) nearly 91% of those "questionable votes" declared invalid
    Let me help you with the probability: Its most likely McDaniel scrambled and had a big net for "questionable"... very, very, very unlikely EVERY one of those votes would be throw out.
    Let me help you with life: This one is over. The goose is cooked. Get on with your life.
    Let me help you out. Read what you quoted.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If the 8300 number reflects actual questionable ballots, then there should be no option but to overturn the primary.


    Do you not know what the word "if" means?


    And like I said elsewhere. It is up to the Courts if what he files is excepted. Do you doubt that Mister his goose is cooked?
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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Let me help you out. Read what you quoted.




    Do you not know what the word "if" means?


    And like I said elsewhere. It is up to the Courts if what he files is excepted. Do you doubt that Mister his goose is cooked?
    Let me help you out: 8300 questionable ballots is not enough to re-do the election or change its outcome. (Actually, the chance of an election re-do is almost nil, unless there is something in Mississippi election law I don't know about --- though I do not know Mississippi election law, do-overs are almost non-existant). Again, the court would apply much of the same logic I just did. They will review the nature of the "questionability" and ONLY if they had some reason to believe that 93% of them (I just used bad math as I originally thought we were talking about 8.500 questionable ballots, when it was 8,300) were invalid would they ever do anything. They would recount; but they will not re-do.

    This is a lost cause of McDaniel. His argument is poor and his prospects of moving beyond this point are even poorer. The election has been certified by the party. His argument is weak. His remedies are nebulous, at best. He merely appears to everyone a sore loser. Don't be a sore loser, too: get on with your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Let me help you out: 8500 questionable ballots is not enough to re-do the election. Again, the court would apply much of the same logic I just did. They will review the nature of the "questionability" and ONLY if they had some reason to believe that 93% of them (I just used bad math as I originally thought we were talking about 8.500 questionable ballots, when it was 8,300) were invalid would they ever do anything. They will recount; but they will re-do. This is a lost cause of McDaniel. His argument is poor and his prospects of moving beyond this point are even poorer. Get on with your life.
    You clearly are confused, and obviously didn't understand the simple word of "if", because if the 8300 hundred are "actual questionable ballots," then yes it is sufficient number to force another run-off. Or in the alternative, Cochran can concede.

    So again, pay attention to what was said and not to what you wanted to have been said.



    And that 8300 hundred is only out of what they were allowed to look at.

    Chris McDaniel Asks Mississippi Court To Open Poll Records

    [...]

    State Sen. Chris McDaniel is trying to prove that some people who voted in the June 24 runoff also voted in the June 3 Democratic primary, which would be illegal. His goal is to force another runoff.

    On Monday, he asked the court for an emergency order forcing Harrison County Circuit Clerk Gayle Parker to let him see original copies of poll books.

    [...]

    Chris McDaniel Asks Mississippi Court To Open Poll Records




    Miss. high court seeks more info from McDaniel
    He has a claim that is being entertained, let the courts figure it out.


    As for your juvenile "Get on with your life" comment. That clearly is what you need to do.

    I provided an update to that which some find interesting.
    And while you may want to be (as displayed by your behavior), you are not the arbiter of what gets posted, or of what others find interesting. So yeah, your own words apply more to you than to me.
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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You clearly are confused, and obviously didn't understand the simple word of "if", because if the 8300 hundred are "actual questionable ballots," then yes it is sufficient number to force another run-off. Or in the alternative, Cochran can concede.

    So again, pay attention to what was said and not to what you wanted to have been said.



    And that 8300 hundred is only out of what they were allowed to look at.

    Chris McDaniel Asks Mississippi Court To Open Poll Records

    [...]

    State Sen. Chris McDaniel is trying to prove that some people who voted in the June 24 runoff also voted in the June 3 Democratic primary, which would be illegal. His goal is to force another runoff.

    On Monday, he asked the court for an emergency order forcing Harrison County Circuit Clerk Gayle Parker to let him see original copies of poll books.

    [...]

    Chris McDaniel Asks Mississippi Court To Open Poll Records




    Miss. high court seeks more info from McDaniel
    He has a claim that is being entertained, let the courts figure it out.


    As for your juvenile "Get on with your life" comment. That clearly is what you need to do.

    I provided an update to that which some find interesting.
    And while you may want to be (as displayed by your behavior), you are not the arbiter of what gets posted, or of what others find interesting. So yeah, your own words apply more to you than to me.
    I think what he's saying is that since Cochran won by about 8000 votes, unless the vast majority of the ~8500 questionable votes are actually thrown out, it won't matter.
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    Re: Cochran wins

    I think the only real way to deal with this is simply for Mcdaniel to run a write in campaign. The truth will come out when Mcdaniel gets more Republican votes than Cockran. The black Democrats would vote for the Dem so he would not get the votes he would have got in the runoff. This corrupt GOP establishment needs to be taught a lesson even if it means losing a Senate seat. To be honest considering the pathetic job this President has done I still think the GOP will retake the Senate. Maybe we can get lucky with a twofer & bring down Mconnell as well.
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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You do realize that "tea bagger" was actually coined by members of the tea party movement? It was only after members of the liberal press had fun with the name that thae red-faced tea partiers tried deflect and sell us on the notion that the libs made up the name. Want to see a hundred pictures of tea parties wearing tea bags and holding declaring themselves "tea-baggers"?
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    They wore tea bags on their hats ... so they called themselves teabaggers.
    They were too naive to get the sexual reference until it was too late.

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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You clearly are confused, and obviously didn't understand the simple word of "if", because if the 8300 hundred are "actual questionable ballots," then yes it is sufficient number to force another run-off. Or in the alternative, Cochran can concede.

    So again, pay attention to what was said and not to what you wanted to have been said.



    And that 8300 hundred is only out of what they were allowed to look at.

    Chris McDaniel Asks Mississippi Court To Open Poll Records

    [...]

    State Sen. Chris McDaniel is trying to prove that some people who voted in the June 24 runoff also voted in the June 3 Democratic primary, which would be illegal. His goal is to force another runoff.

    On Monday, he asked the court for an emergency order forcing Harrison County Circuit Clerk Gayle Parker to let him see original copies of poll books.

    [...]

    Chris McDaniel Asks Mississippi Court To Open Poll Records




    Miss. high court seeks more info from McDaniel
    He has a claim that is being entertained, let the courts figure it out.


    As for your juvenile "Get on with your life" comment. That clearly is what you need to do.

    I provided an update to that which some find interesting.
    And while you may want to be (as displayed by your behavior), you are not the arbiter of what gets posted, or of what others find interesting. So yeah, your own words apply more to you than to me.
    I understand the word "if".... and, as used in this case, the word "if" is of such low probability as to be almost non-sensical. The chance of ALL 8,300 ballots being of error and being thrown out is almost 'nil" He just doesn't have a enough "questionable" ballots to have any case. In fact, the low number of those "questionable" ballots vis-a-vis the vote differential is a great argument for the validation of the election.

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    I don't regard as "naïve" those who aren't up on the trendy sexual references. Speaks to the juvenility of those who seized on the "teabagger" thing. Maybe it's even a virtue not knowing what a donkey punch or dirty sanchez is.

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