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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Then I would offer that you have a minimal understanding of the American political system. However, nothing pleases me more that watching those on the Right attack each other, so go for it!
    We disagree all the time - so do liberals disagree with each other all the time. You who claim such broad understanding of politics don't know that?
    In actuality I see you have very little political acumen - you make a rookie mistake by viewing disagreement within a political party as a fracture. That's naive at best.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I don't hear anything illegal in that video. The caller encouraged the callee to vote for Senator Thad Cochran and say NO to the Tea Party. That seems to me to be a free exercise of free speech, something the Tea Party says they support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    I don't hear anything illegal in that video. The caller encouraged the callee to vote for Senator Thad Cochran and say NO to the Tea Party. That seems to me to be a free exercise of free speech, something the Tea Party says they support.
    Here are some comments from McDaniel.

    "If our party and our conservative movement are to coexist, it is paramount that we ensure the sanctity of the election process is upheld," McDaniel's statement said. "We must be absolutely certain that our Republican primary was won by Republican voters.

    "In the coming days, our team will look into the irregularities to determine whether a challenge is warranted," the statement said. "After we've examined the data, we will make a decision about whether and how to [proceed]."

    I guess they haven't looked up the rules for open primaries, where the rules anticipate and encourage people to cross party lines.

    I also wonder if the Tea Party has asked McDaniel if he voted for the democratic nominee for Gov. in 2003. If he didn't, he 'broke the law' because McDaniel voted in the democratic primary in 2003. For some reason the campaign has been tight lipped about this. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    not that i'm a fan of the TP.. but they are less "dangerous" than the establishment Republicans... especially those massive spenders like Thad.

    if runaway spending is something you support, the mainstream GOP is the place to be... and Thad tops that particular chart.
    I'd disagree with your characterization and I'd also say that I'm definitely an 'establishment' Republican if that is the dichotomy we're presented with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Great stolen quote:

    McDaniel demands the vote be recounted and all black voters counted as 3/5ths a vote.

    https://twitter.com/Gus_802/status/481651510841864192
    And any momacitas with big tits should have their votes thrown out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We disagree all the time - so do liberals disagree with each other all the time. You who claim such broad understanding of politics don't know that?
    In actuality I see you have very little political acumen - you make a rookie mistake by viewing disagreement within a political party as a fracture. That's naive at best.
    No, it's a fracture. Hell you have Queen Sarah talking about starting a new political party. Hope she succeeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, it's a fracture. Hell you have Queen Sarah talking about starting a new political party. Hope she succeeds.
    .... Who?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Here are some comments from McDaniel.

    "If our party and our conservative movement are to coexist, it is paramount that we ensure the sanctity of the election process is upheld," McDaniel's statement said. "We must be absolutely certain that our Republican primary was won by Republican voters.

    "In the coming days, our team will look into the irregularities to determine whether a challenge is warranted," the statement said. "After we've examined the data, we will make a decision about whether and how to [proceed]."

    I guess they haven't looked up the rules for open primaries, where the rules anticipate and encourage people to cross party lines.

    I also wonder if the Tea Party has asked McDaniel if he voted for the democratic nominee for Gov. in 2003. If he didn't, he 'broke the law' because McDaniel voted in the democratic primary in 2003. For some reason the campaign has been tight lipped about this. Weird.
    I also think that a political party should be choosing candidates exclusively by their registered party members. But the rules are the rules. If Republicans, who control Mississippi, don't like it, get rid of open primaries -- don't 8itch about it after it doesn't go your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    I also think that a political party should be choosing candidates exclusively by their registered party members. But the rules are the rules. If Republicans, who control Mississippi, don't like it, get rid of open primaries -- don't 8itch about it after it doesn't go your way.
    I'm also fine with closed primaries. I'm all for parties being able to decide on the rules for selecting their nominee.

    But Tennessee is also an open primary state, and I like that it is. I often cross parties and vote for Republicans because I know the GOPer who is nominated will win. So sometimes I vote in the democratic primary, other times in the GOP, depending on the election. And there is nothing illegitimate about that, IMO, even though if forced to register with one party, I'd probably register as a democrat.

    Besides, I've read but cannot confirm that open primaries expanded as the South was transitioning from yellow dog democratic to solid republican. During the transition, GOP candidates wanted to appeal to registered democrats, especially during the period when local races continued to be dominated by democrats long after national allegiances changed. Back then there was a ton of cross party voting (in my state anyway) depending on the election.

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    Re: Cochran wins

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm also fine with closed primaries. I'm all for parties being able to decide on the rules for selecting their nominee.

    But Tennessee is also an open primary state, and I like that it is. I often cross parties and vote for Republicans because I know the GOPer who is nominated will win. So sometimes I vote in the democratic primary, other times in the GOP, depending on the election. And there is nothing illegitimate about that, IMO, even though if forced to register with one party, I'd probably register as a democrat.

    Besides, I've read but cannot confirm that open primaries expanded as the South was transitioning from yellow dog democratic to solid republican. During the transition, GOP candidates wanted to appeal to registered democrats, especially during the period when local races continued to be dominated by democrats long after national allegiances changed. Back then there was a ton of cross party voting (in my state anyway) depending on the election.
    Open primaries did originate in the south a long time ago. They originated because back in the day who ever won the Democratic primary was tantamount to election. The general was a mere formality. Georgia has always had an open primary for as long as I can remember.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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