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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    People are so freaking lazy. I can't believe someone would pay $20.00 for information and then parking when they can most likely get another one for free or less money a little farther away. I don't know about San Francisco but most of the major cities I've been to have parking garages that charge less than that but you might have to walk a little further. Maybe I'm just cheap and not lazy but I couldn't imagine using an app like that. I'm the one who will park 5 blocks away to save $8.00.
    Really it costs $12.00 to park a car? Is that all day or for 1 hour?

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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    But its not just information. These spots are being tied up, held by others until the next party arrives. The city has the right to control the access to the parking.
    Doesn't the city have parking meters and time limits right now?

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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet nobody claimed they were. What is stated is that they are illegal for the same reason and that reason is:



    You can't sell/rent out property you don't own to begin with. Thus, advertising an illegal activity is itself illegal.
    How many cases will be brought to small claims court for a person that paid for a space and then it wasn't available causing financial damage to that person?

    It would be a nightmare.

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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Really it costs $12.00 to park a car? Is that all day or for 1 hour?
    Depends on where you park and the event. Like for instance we had the College World Series here this past week and there were lots and garages charging anywhere from $8.00 - $40.00/all day depending how far away from the stadium it was. On a normal night I think it is more or less about $8.00 to park but all the meters are free on weekends and after 4:30 on weekdays, you just have to find one when someone is leaving or park a little farther away. I personally wouldn't pay someone who was leaving in a close spot but if someone else would I don't really care.
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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How many cases will be brought to small claims court for a person that paid for a space and then it wasn't available causing financial damage to that person?

    It would be a nightmare.
    They way I understand it is you get paid only after the person paying successfully gets the spot.
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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    They way I understand it is you get paid only after the person paying successfully gets the spot.
    That seems like a logistics nightmare.

    If the guy that is supposed to get there suddenly gets called away for whatever, what happens to the guy sitting there waiting?

    How long does he have to wait before he can cancel the deal, and if he does cancel the deal and makes a deal with somebody else then both show up for the space, what then.

    It is too crazy for me.

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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Oh, but there are some major differences. In my lawn chair example, the transaction takes place completely within the confines of the city.
    Lol, the transaction is for public property that is subject to city laws. Are you old enough to understand these concepts? It doesn't matter where a transaction takes place. It's subject to city laws if what is being exchanged for money is public property belonging to the city. As far as the city is concerned, it's public property is not there for people to make a business out of.

    Well, yes, but the statute's very specific:
    Statutes usually are.

    So what MonkeyParking app user is placing or maintaining a sign, picture, transparency, advertisement, or mechanical device ON the parking space?
    Your inability to circumvent language with any coherent arguments is impressive but it doesn't get you any points. You can maintain an advertisement on a property (public or private) without physically placing a sign. That's why it said placed upon in other words: An advertisement over the internet has no difference from an advertisement on a lawn as both serve the exact same purpose. That is to advertise a good. It's a nice try though. Now, put the Ayn Rand book down.
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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Probably just fine him. They may have to post a "no reselling" contract sticker on each meter. Then, all they need to do is point to the sticker, and then fine him for violating the contract.
    Yeah, but how would the cops know? Are they going to question everyone sitting in a parking spot with a phone or tablet in his lap? It's not like they're hanging signs out of their windows advertising it. "Hey, people! You can have my spot for ten bucks!" I'm thinking San Francisco already realizes the enforcement challenges, hence the letters to Apple and MonkeyParking with the threat of a lawsuit. Assuming the city is successful, they'll just drive this activity underground. I mean, the recording industry got Napster to throw in the towel, but what have they done to The Pirate Bay and other similar torrenting websites? The founders of The Pirate Bay were found guilty in Sweden, but that didn't stop people from setting up proxies all over the planet. Anyone who has fingers and can spell can download anything they want, whether it be books, movies, magazines, music, or auto repair manuals. There's never been a better time for piracy. San Francisco is pissing in the wind.
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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think it's a great idea. I hold a parking space with my car and auction the timed removal of my car from that legal parking space to the highest bidder. Heck, that's the American Way! Can't imagine why it would be illegal to auction off moving your car out of a parking space. *shrug*

    SF's probably just mad they didn't think of it first. Think of all those public sector workers they could hire with fabulous pensions to hold spaces!! A liberal's wet dream!!
    well it isn't your parking spot to begin with and it is illegal to auction, rent or even attempt to sell somethng that doesn't belong to you to begin with.

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    Re: S.F. threatens parking app 'MonkeyParking' with lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    They way I understand it is you get paid only after the person paying successfully gets the spot.
    you can't sell something that doesn't belong to you. which is exactly what they are doing. allowing people to sell something that doesn't belong to them. it belongs to the public as a whole.

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