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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

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    And how does one revoke an imperial presidency?
    Time machine?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And how does one revoke an imperial presidency?
    that is something no one has the answer to.
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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So the only option is impeachment?

    That means that, just like now, if the President has political control over one house in congress, he can over ridge the Bill of Rights and Constitution and survive being President. That to me, is an egregious amount of power given to the President which should be removed immediately. No political party should have that much power in one portion of the government without a clear balance of that power within the other two. The SCOTUS should have the power to over turn executive orders and the Congress should be able to negate executive orders without both House and Senate agreeing.
    I completely agree except for SCOTUS, it can only review a question of law via a long judicial process that eventually leads to granting petition for Writ of Certiorari.

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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And how does one revoke an imperial presidency?
    "... whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government ..."

    "... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."


    - Declaration of Independence

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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    "... whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government ..."

    "... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."


    - Declaration of Independence
    That suggests or outlines "revolution". Such an action in modern times would not be an easy thing to achieve. Modern changes suggest a coup would be more likely or government sanctioned assassination.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That suggests or outlines "revolution". Such an action in modern times would not be an easy thing to achieve. Modern changes suggest a coup would be more likely or government sanctioned assassination.
    Revolution is never easy. The Soviet Union collapsed by a bloodless revolution though so it can be done in the US as well.

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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    Revolution is never easy. The Soviet Union collapsed by a bloodless revolution though so it can be done in the US as well.
    Sedition is a crime
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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Sedition is a crime
    True, the founders committed sedition. Just about everything is a crime in America for us serfs and very little is a crime when committed by those in power. SCOTUS granted all government SERVANTS absolute or qualified immunity from the bench.

    "Everything Hitler did was legal" - Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Really?

    Colin Powell hand carried a check to the Taliban for $43 million in April 2001. I would say gratitude and joy might describe that relationship better than hatred.

    Saddam was our fair-haired son for about a decade, getting all sorts of Commerce Dept loans and weapons including biological and chemical weapons. That doesn't really sound like hatred to me.
    Funny how this post gets ignored the rest of the thread.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Memo Outlines Rationale for Drone Strikes on Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And how does one revoke an imperial presidency?
    Elect an independent constitutionalist that isn't establishment, impeachment, revolution..........
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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