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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    High Costs and Errors of German Transition to Renewable Energy - SPIEGEL ONLINE

    Bull, you have no idea what your'e talking about. It's NOT just about " Economics ", because now Germany's air is dirtier than it was before they entered into this disaster.

    https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/...icial-at-noaa/

    NOAA " The year 2012 was the warmest on record for the contiguous United States, beating the previous record by a full degree in temperature, a government climate agency said on Tuesday. Scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the average temperature in 2012 in the contiguous United States was 55.3 degrees Fahrenheit (12.94 degrees Celsius), 3.2 degrees above the average recorded during the 20th century and 1.0 degree above 1998, until now the hottest on record. "

    " I will do a more complete analysis later, but for now I want you to focus on the bold sentence above, which claims that 1998 used to be the hottest year in the US.

    In an article which NASA published in 1999, Hansen showed that 1998 was only the fifth warmest year, after 1934, 1921, 1931 and 1953. In fact, 1998 was 0.6C cooler than 1934."


    " Science " !!
    Again, your first link focuses on the financial burden of green energy. The second link I can't access from work.

    And since I can post links too, here's one from Henry Paulson:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/22/op...sion.html?_r=0

    THERE is a time for weighing evidence and a time for acting. And if there’s one thing I’ve learned throughout my work in finance, government and conservation, it is to act before problems become too big to manage.

    For too many years, we failed to rein in the excesses building up in the nation’s financial markets. When the credit bubble burst in 2008, the damage was devastating. Millions suffered. Many still do.

    We’re making the same mistake today with climate change. We’re staring down a climate bubble that poses enormous risks to both our environment and economy. The warning signs are clear and growing more urgent as the risks go unchecked.

    This is a crisis we can’t afford to ignore. I feel as if I’m watching as we fly in slow motion on a collision course toward a giant mountain. We can see the crash coming, and yet we’re sitting on our hands rather than altering course.

    We need to act now, even though there is much disagreement, including from members of my own Republican Party, on how to address this issue while remaining economically competitive. They’re right to consider the economic implications. But we must not lose sight of the profound economic risks of doing nothing.
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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Here's another from the Rolling Stone Mag

    Global Warming's Terrifying New Math | Politics News | Rolling Stone

    If the pictures of those towering wildfires in Colorado haven't convinced you, or the size of your AC bill this summer, here are some hard numbers about climate change: June broke or tied 3,215 high-temperature records across the United States. That followed the warmest May on record for the Northern Hemisphere – the 327th consecutive month in which the temperature of the entire globe exceeded the 20th-century average, the odds of which occurring by simple chance were 3.7 x 10-99, a number considerably larger than the number of stars in the universe.Meteorologists reported that this spring was the warmest ever recorded for our nation – in fact, it crushed the old record by so much that it represented the "largest temperature departure from average of any season on record." The same week, Saudi authorities reported that it had rained in Mecca despite a temperature of 109 degrees, the hottest downpour in the planet's history.
    A man without fear is a fool, a man that succumbs to his fear is a coward and a brave man acknowledges fear yet presses on.
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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    It's always been the same lie, the same scam, the same bait and switch.

    The green energy lobby ( Democrats ) promises to save the world....but for a price.

    Maybe soon, we'll pay 20 Billion a year for Electricity that has a 3 Billion dollar market price just like the Germans.
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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Here's another from the Rolling Stone Mag

    Global Warming's Terrifying New Math | Politics News | Rolling Stone

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    Here's some Math.

    Germans pay 300 percent more for their electricity than we do, and its going up soon as their Government prepares to raise the premium thats been tacked onto to their kilowatt hour usage.

    They are currently paying 20 Billion for Electricity that has a 3 Billion dollar market price.

    And they're now more dependant on Coal than they were before Merkel shut down the Nuke power plants.

    They pay 300 percent more for their electricity than we do so they can have dirtier air and burn massive amounts of Coal.

    " Science " !!

    And warmest ever ? Lie.

    NOAA have been replacing actual temperature measurements with a Computer model that continues to push the false narrative of " Global warming ".

    NOAA " When determining the existence of Global warming, absolute temperature measurements are not important "....

    Huh ? Actual ambient measurements are not important ?

    Why, because actual temperature measurements would contradict their BS agenda ?
    Last edited by Fenton; 06-23-14 at 06:27 PM.

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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Again, your first link focuses on the financial burden of green energy. The second link I can't access from work.

    And since I can post links too, here's one from Henry Paulson:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/22/op...sion.html?_r=0


    Yes, yes, " we need to act now " ....

    Famous last words.

    The second link is the German finance minister explaining to a group of green energy lobbyists that their switch to renewable energy is on the verge of total failure.

    You think ?

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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    The reason the EPA took action in the first place was because the Supreme Court ordered them to.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Here's some Math.

    Germans pay 300 percent more for their electricity than we do, and its going up soon as their Government prepares to raise the premium thats been tacked onto to their kilowatt hour usage.

    They are currently paying 20 Billion for Electricity that has a 3 Billion dollar market price.

    And they're now more dependant on Coal than they were before Merkel shut down the Nuke power plants.

    They pay 300 percent more for their electricity than we do so they can have dirtier air and burn massive amounts of Coal.

    " Science " !!

    And warmest ever ? Lie.

    NOAA have been replacing actual temperature measurements with a Computer model that continues to push the false narrative of " Global warming ".

    NOAA " When determining the existence of Global warming, absolute temperature measurements are not important "....

    Huh ? Actual ambient measurements are not important ?

    Why, because actual temperature measurements would contradict their BS agenda ?
    No, because damage is caused primarily by changes in temperature. Animals and plants adapt to their environment, and problems occur when the change is too rapid for them to cope with.

    Germany should have stuck with nuclear.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, because damage is caused primarily by changes in temperature. Animals and plants adapt to their environment, and problems occur when the change is too rapid for them to cope with.

    Germany should have stuck with nuclear.

    Huh ?

    How in the hell can you monitor change without absolute and accurate data ? Without actual ambient temperatures that don't have to be tweaked by some Computer model ?

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    Re: Justices rap EPA, but uphold global warming rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Huh ?

    How in the hell can you monitor change without absolute and accurate data ?
    They have that. They just use temperature anomaly on the charts because it's more useful, and also provides a common point of reference. Referencing absolute temperatures in Greenland and Egypt makes for a more difficult comparison.

    Without actual ambient temperatures that don't have to be tweaked by some Computer model ?
    You're assuming the data corrections are unwarranted.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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