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    Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    "We've heard that it's easier now, but it's not 100% guaranteed," said Juan Artiaga of the Honduran island of Roatan, two children at his side."The Americans treat us fine," said another Honduran, Genaro Solis, making the trek with his 4-year-old daughter, Rachel, and his wife, Vanessa Flores. "The problem now is the Mexicans."
    The phenomenon of unaccompanied minors, children with a single parent or lone women making the perilous crossing through Mexico from Central America to the United States is at least two decades old. But suddenly it is garnering U.S. headlines, in part because the numbers have shot up and the issue has been politicized in Washington.
    In recent days, the Obama administration has recognized it as an "urgent humanitarian issue," while Republican opponents blame the president for attracting the crowds in the first place by loosening border-crossing restrictions.
    Sometimes I protect her and sometimes she protects me.- Moises Albarenga, 14, migrant from Honduras traveling atop a freight train with his mother

    On Friday, Vice President Joe Biden, visiting Central America, sought to discourage the word-of-mouth exodus, and the government announced a crackdown on detentions and deportations.
    But for those already on the rails, there's no turning back.

    Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.*-*Los Angeles Times
    This is a crisis totally of this administrations making....And this is what they are bringing with them...

    The barrage of illegal immigrant minors entering the U.S. through Mexico in recent weeks has created an out-of-control disaster with jam-packed holding centers, rampant diseases and sexually active teenagers at a Nogales facility, according to information obtained by Judicial Watch from a Homeland Security source.The Obama administration blames the sudden influx on persistent violence in Central America, but a veteran Border Patrol agent who heads the agency’s Tucson sector union, says rumors of amnesty are responsible for the unforeseen bombardment. When agents ask the illegal border crossers what drove them, “we are hearing a lot of amnistía (amnesty),” said Art Del Cueto, the Tucson Border Patrol Union president. There are almost 1,000 minors at the Nogales facility, according to Del Cueto.
    The Obama administration is scrambling to open up shelters that can accommodate the storm of mostly Central American minors that are said to be fleeing violence in their homeland. At an informational White House press call monitored by Judicial Watch today senior administration officials insisted the situation, which President Obama says is a humanitarian crisis, is under control. The officials also assured that all of the illegal alien minors will be put in removal proceedings and that none qualify for the president’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), which grants amnesty to those who came to the U.S. as children “through no fault of their own.”
    But the tens of thousands of Central American youths will likely never be deported and many will be released in the U.S. while they are being “processed.” American taxpayers will fund their stay in specially created shelters and military facilities. The Obama administration has also launched a special program called Justice AmeriCorps to give them free legal help. The administration has asked Congress for more than $2 billion, the senior administration officials revealed at today’s press call. The minors are coming mostly from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador and some may have criminal backgrounds.

    Influx of Illegal Alien Minors a Disaster; Overcrowded Shelters, Diseases, Sexually Active Teens | Judicial Watch

    Reports of TB, and worse have been reported...And also reports of hardcore MS13 gang members, and affiliates have entered...What the hell is this administration doing? And what should we do to stop this insanity?
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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Would it be a violation of the Geneva Convention to consider this mass migration even though it is largely by independant minds, an act of war (Invasion)?? If so could we declare 'War?' on illegal immigrants? We have a big enough military and advanced enough weaponry to shoot down anyone trying to come into our country. Our reason for war? Economic subterfuge by illegals placing a heavy burden on the american system and a technical "invasion" of residents of those country into ours. Thoughts?

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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    Would it be a violation of the Geneva Convention to consider this mass migration even though it is largely by independant minds, an act of war (Invasion)?? If so could we declare 'War?' on illegal immigrants? We have a big enough military and advanced enough weaponry to shoot down anyone trying to come into our country. Our reason for war? Economic subterfuge by illegals placing a heavy burden on the american system and a technical "invasion" of residents of those country into ours. Thoughts?

    I think that there could be a case made in that regard, especially since it is fact that the Governments of these countries typically hand out pamphlets describing how to enter the US, and apply for benefits like welfare.
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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    Would it be a violation of the Geneva Convention to consider this mass migration even though it is largely by independant minds, an act of war (Invasion)?? If so could we declare 'War?' on illegal immigrants? We have a big enough military and advanced enough weaponry to shoot down anyone trying to come into our country. Our reason for war? Economic subterfuge by illegals placing a heavy burden on the american system and a technical "invasion" of residents of those country into ours. Thoughts?
    Ahhh, kill people trying to find a better life for themselves and their children, great.

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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Ahhh, kill people trying to find a better life for themselves and their children, great.
    I'd frame it more as. Kill people who wish to live off of the american welfare state, who wish to leech off of americans and refuse to take proactive steps to IMPROVE THEIR OWN country. If they don't come here legally than they are criminalss, and this qualifies as an act of WAR because in my opinion it is an INVASION.

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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    We need to seal the border with a few infantry divisions.
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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We need to seal the border with a few infantry divisions.
    No troops are needed, barely a fence, and half the Border patrol agents.

    Just requiring Citizenship/ID for ANY Job in the USA.
    No job, No immigrants.

    Any Business hiring an illegal should face $5000/$10000/JAIL penalties. (Watch em run, and watch Minimum Wage go up withOut legislation)
    Individuals hiring illegals the same.
    No money, No immigrants.

    No one will institute this simple plan. They are ALL Frauds Posturing with troops, fences, etc.
    Bush and Obama, bad and worse. Congress the same clowns.
    Amnesty-Obama causing this most recent crisis, Amnesty-Vote-for-me-in-Texas Bush caused a few earlier ones.

    I'm generally progressive, but Obama is a Failed President. This is a spectacular example.
    Biden is in Central America begging for mercy, pleading with them to stop coming. Doing Damage control for the crisis Obama made.

    NO Amnesty, NO 'Path to Citizenship', NO Have-your-baby-here/send-your-children, NO Jobs. Nada.
    ALL incentives must be removed. Absolutely.
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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    No troops are needed, barely a fence, and half the Border patrol agents.

    Just requiring Citizenship/ID for ANY Job in the USA.
    No job, No immigrants.

    Any Business hiring an illegal should face $5000/$10000/JAIL penalties. (Watch em run, and watch Minimum Wage go up withOut legislation)
    Individuals hiring illegals the same.
    No money, No immigrants.

    No one will institute this simple plan. They are ALL Frauds Posturing with troops, fences, etc.
    Bush and Obama, bad and worse. Congress the same clowns.
    Amnesty-Obama causing this most recent crisis, Amnesty-Vote-for-me-in-Texas Bush caused a few earlier ones.

    I'm generally progressive, but Obama is a Failed President. This is a spectacular example.
    Biden is in Central America begging for mercy, pleading with them to stop coming. Doing Damage control for the crisis Obama made.

    NO Amnesty, NO 'Path to Citizenship', NO Have-your-baby-here/send-your-children, NO Jobs. Nada.
    ALL incentives must be removed. Absolutely.
    How will that stop the minors from crossing to be with their families?

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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How will that stop the minors from crossing to be with their families?
    What percent of illegals come in under your scenario?
    Why do you Ignore the Meat of the plan for the exception?
    Any answer to the Bulk of my proposal? No.

    Nonetheless, to be a US Citizen (and have an ID to work), you have to be born here/have a birth certificate, or be a naturalized citizen.
    I don't see an Illegal immigrant child having either. Do You?
    Illegals shouldn't leave their children behind and wouldn't have to if they Apply Legally to come here as a family.
    Last edited by mbig; 06-21-14 at 10:32 PM.
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    Re: Central American migrants are on a word-of-mouth exodus to the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    What percent of illegals come in under your scenario?
    Why do you Ignore the Meat of the plan for the exception?
    Any answer to the Bulk of my proposal? No.

    Nonetheless, to be a US Citizen (and have an ID to work), you have to be born here/have a birth certificate, or be a naturalized citizen.
    I don't see a Illegal immigrant child having either. Do You?
    Illegals shouldn't leave their children behind and wouldn't have to if the Apply Legally to come here as a family.
    How can you say that is an exception.

    This story is about thousands of minors being held that crossed just for that reason.

    I am ignoring anything, as I have no control over the immigration policy.

    Talk to Obama about it.

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