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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well if you met thousands of Kenyans all over the country and discussed Barrack Obama with them then I take you at your word.
    Of course we talked about Obama. I lived in Kenya for two years my last visit, Nairobi to the mountain and around a bit. Sure, there was the occasional conspiracy theorist, just like in the US, but the average Kenyan knows his father was born there, not him. They know he has relatives. They know what tribe his father is from, etc. There is no marking for "birthplace of Obama" and no one (rare CTers excepted) claims Obama was born in Kenya. The CTers easily concede when even slightly confronted (by other Kenyans, not me), unlike in the US.
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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, I hope you can understand why you've confused some people (myself included) seeing as the part you quoted wasn't referring to the first amendment.
    It isn't difficult. The argument between left v right, for 40 plus years is one pitting "of" v "from"... The wording is clear.
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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course we talked about Obama. I lived in Kenya for two years my last visit, Nairobi to the mountain and around a bit. Sure, there was the occasional conspiracy theorist, just like in the US, but the average Kenyan knows his father was born there, not him. They know he has relatives. They know what tribe his father is from, etc. There is no marking for "birthplace of Obama" and no one (rare CTers excepted) claims Obama was born in Kenya. The CTers easily concede when even slightly confronted (by other Kenyans, not me), unlike in the US.

    Obama's former literary agency misidentified his birthplace as Kenya while trying to promote the then-Harvard Law grad as an author in 1991.

    According to a promotional booklet produced by the agency, Acton & Dystel, to showcase its roster of writers, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
    'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

    How can you blame the CT'ers when it wasn't the CT'ers who PUBLISHED that Obama was born in Kenya. It was HIS OWN PEOPLE who started the issue. It didn't take a person with a tinfoil hat to come to the conclusion Obama was born in Kenya, all it took was someone who READ HIS OWN BOOK!!!

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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

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    'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

    How can you blame the CT'ers when it wasn't the CT'ers who PUBLISHED that Obama was born in Kenya. It was HIS OWN PEOPLE who started the issue. It didn't take a person with a tinfoil hat to come to the conclusion Obama was born in Kenya, all it took was someone who READ HIS OWN BOOK!!!
    Most people do not base their knowledge of the world on a single promotional booklet misprint that no one read over 20 years ago.

    I suppose if someone read that promotional booklet and nothing else about Obama, and then lived under a rock for 20 years, I could understand their confusion.
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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    The things that pass for "Mainstream News," these days.



    I get a kick out of these fringe lunatics and their faux-outrages and their habit of speaking for Americans. "Americans want this. Americans want that."

    What the Mainstream of America wants is for you guys to crawl back under your rocks and shut your pie-holes.

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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

    How can you blame the CT'ers when it wasn't the CT'ers who PUBLISHED that Obama was born in Kenya. It was HIS OWN PEOPLE who started the issue. It didn't take a person with a tinfoil hat to come to the conclusion Obama was born in Kenya, all it took was someone who READ HIS OWN BOOK!!!
    It takes a conspiracy theorist to latch on to something so flimsy and refuse to let it go despite the enormous amount of evidence to the contrary, actually.

    And, please, don't act like this was the basis for the birther lunacy. Don't pretend that whole "SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE NO WAIT THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH" nonsense didn't happen.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It takes a conspiracy theorist to latch on to something so flimsy and refuse to let it go despite the enormous amount of evidence to the contrary, actually.

    And, please, don't act like this was the basis for the birther lunacy. Don't pretend that whole "SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE NO WAIT THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH" nonsense didn't happen.
    I'm not defending anyone pal. I'm saying if you publish a biography and it says you are an astronaut(though you never were), don't fall down dead when some people refer to you as an astronaut even if you deny it. That may make the accusers unreasonable, but it doesn't make them lunatic conspiracy nuts either. get the difference?

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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I'm not defending anyone pal. I'm saying if you publish a biography and it says you are an astronaut(though you never were), don't fall down dead when some people refer to you as an astronaut even if you deny it. That may make the accusers unreasonable, but it doesn't make them lunatic conspiracy nuts either. get the difference?
    Yes, if NASA then released a document proving I was not an astronaut and they decided I was an astronaut anyway, they're a lunatic conspiracy nut. If I myself say that was a mistake, my parents say it was a mistake, my wife says it was a mistake, the guy who wrote it says it was a mistake, NASA releases a document proving it was a mistake, and someone still thinks I'm an astronaut, they're a lunatic conspiracy nut. Do you get it now? If a simple records check of NASA's personnel shows that I was never an employee there, and you continue to believe a brochure, you're a conspiracy nut.

    If you have proof in a court of law that I am not an astronaut, but think I'm an astronaut because a brochure said so, you're a lunatic conspiracy nut.

    You're acting like this brochure exists in some vacuum and completely ignoring the broader situation. At this point in time, it is impossible to believe Obama was born in Kenya without being a moron.
    Last edited by Deuce; 06-25-14 at 12:33 AM.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It isn't difficult. The argument between left v right, for 40 plus years is one pitting "of" v "from"... The wording is clear.
    Can you effectively say who is "left" and who is "right" though? I've made that mistake myself before with some people and they have made that same mistake with me. Some views I am left of and some I am right of. The whole defining who is left and who is right is difficult in many cases. How do you determine who is right and left when they hold multiple stances of both?

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    Re: Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post

    If you have proof in a court of law that I am not an astronaut, but think I'm an astronaut because a brochure said so, you're a lunatic conspiracy nut.
    yes, because public opinion always waits until there is "proof in a court of law" before making judgement on public figures. yep yep

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