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    John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Madison — Prosecutors allege Gov. Scott Walker was at the center of an effort to illegally coordinate fundraising among conservative groups to help his campaign and those of Republican state senators fend off recall elections during 2011 and '12, according to documents unsealed Thursday.
    This is a major political bombshell. Looks like Governor Walker, who is considering a presidential run in 2016, is about to be indicted for corruption. But let me put a little wrinkle in this:

    What is a felony in Wisconsin is perfectly legal in many other states, which begs the question..... Does Walker really deserve to go to prison over this? And this begs yet another question.... Is this investigation politically motivated?

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is a major political bombshell. Looks like Governor Walker, who is considering a presidential run in 2016, is about to be indicted for corruption, but let me put a little wrinkle in this:

    What is a felony in Wisconsin is perfectly legal in many other states, which begs the question..... Does Walker really deserve to go to prison over this? And this begs yet another question.... Is this politically motivated?

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    Yet another witch hunt... Walker handed the Dems. one of their biggest defeats and they will do anything to attack him. My guess is that this will end up in the same trash heap as the other false allegations against Walker.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Yet another witch hunt... Walker handed the Dems. one of their biggest defeats and they will do anything to attack him. My guess is that this will end up in the same trash heap as the other false allegations against Walker.
    The evidence shows that Walker broke the law. Does freedom of speech extend to freedom to break the law? On the other hand, as I already brought up, Walker's lawbreaking in Wisconsin is not lawbreaking in a number of other states. So what does this do to the concept of "equal treatment under the law"? Should this become a Federal issue, or does states rights apply here?
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The evidence shows that Walker broke the law. Does freedom of speech extend to freedom to break the law? On the other hand, as I already brought up, Walker's lawbreaking in Wisconsin is not lawbreaking in a number of other states. So what does this do to the concept of "equal treatment under the law"? Should this become a Federal issue, or does states rights apply here?
    The evidence doesn't support it, the accusations do. So far, the evidence is piss -poor and well refuted by Walkers people.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The evidence shows that Walker broke the law. Does freedom of speech extend to freedom to break the law? On the other hand, as I already brought up, Walker's lawbreaking in Wisconsin is not lawbreaking in a number of other states. So what does this do to the concept of "equal treatment under the law"? Should this become a Federal issue, or does states rights apply here?
    The immediate answer to this is yes, if he broke the law he should face the justice system. The long-term answer is that he could possibly appeal this far enough to a SCOTUS ruling that could go in his favor, but no matter what his 2016 run is over at this point before it begins if he broke the state law.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    I have long said, "Just wait until the John Doe investigation is over." Walker is so crooked he has to screw his shoes on every morning when he wakes up.

    But, then again, that pretty much qualifies him to become a president.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    The evidence doesn't support it, the accusations do. So far, the evidence is piss -poor and well refuted by Walkers people.
    That's not what the prosecutors say, or what the documents, which show a paper trail, reveal. Do you have a credible link to something different?
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    All this says to me is that the dems consider Walker a credible presidential candidate for 2016 and thus a threat to be neutralized/sleazed.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    All this says to me is that the dems consider Walker a credible presidential candidate for 2016 and thus a threat to be neutralized/sleazed.
    How about using a little logic, instead of ranting that it's all the Democrats' fault? There is smoking gun paperwork which catches Walker dead to rights. However, there are 2 ways that Walker can beat this, because, as you should well know, not every law is a good law. In fact, the laws that Walker broke were passed during Democratic administrations in Wisconsin. Were they afraid that big money could beat them, and so passed these laws? Here are the 2 ways Walker can beat the charges:

    1) First Amendment - This is what Walker's legal team is pushing now, and in light of the Citizens' United decision, it could very well work, by declaring Wisconsin's law against outside money and coordination unconstitutional.

    2) There is yet another way Walker can beat this, which involves the 14th Amendment. What Walker did is perfectly legal in several states, which brings up the idea of "equal protection". In Federal court, Walker's legal team can argue that he has been denied equal protection, since what he did, although illegal in Wisconsin, is legal elsewhere.

    This is not a witch hunt. The prosecutors are doing their job, and they have proof that Walker did what they are saying he did. However, is the law they are going after Walker on Constitutional? This is where the fight is, and this is where Walker could come out on top. Actually, I would say that the odds are in Walker's favor.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Does Walker really deserve to go to prison over this? I don't think so.

    And this begs yet another question.... Is this investigation politically motivated? Oh hell yes.

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