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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    That is npt issue here - quite frankly I'm happy you suffer... Your suffering puts a smile on my face. Welcome to the real world where people have to work.
    and a happy Friday to you, as well. perhaps your enjoyment of the suffering of others will advance the libertarian cause which you so effectively promote.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    These are all like but I would love to see ani-Walker supporters do is go hungry because of thier lackof wanting to work.....GOOD BLAME OBAMA.

    I hope you eat dog food.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    he pushed through the ****ty right to work bill. i can't support union busting in this economy. we need more organization of labor right now, not less.

    still, these stupid hyperpartisan witch hunts are completely counterproductive, and they are not how elections should be won. if the lower socioeconomic classes are careless enough to vote against their own interests, then so be it; that's how democracy works. the real problems in our system are gerrymandering and allowing the very wealthy to purchase the system. unfortunately, i doubt that we'll effectively address these problems in my lifetime. those who benefit from the status quo are too well entrenched. pressure will have to be significant, and it will have to come from the bottom up.
    I don't mind right to work. Unions had their time, now they are only another form of corruption. That is another debate I guess.

    I agree on the silliness of this whole John Doe I and II witch hunt. The prosecuters just wasted taxpayer money to get sued. Its so dumb its hilarious. Its as if people striving for power never matured farther than high school.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    These are all like but I would love to see ani-Walker supporters do is go hungry because of thier lackof wanting to work.....GOOD BLAME OBAMA.

    I hope you eat dog food.
    Yeah, because that's a sane thought.

    I hope the truth comes out.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is a major political bombshell. Looks like Governor Walker, who is considering a presidential run in 2016, is about to be indicted for corruption. But let me put a little wrinkle in this:

    What is a felony in Wisconsin is perfectly legal in many other states, which begs the question..... Does Walker really deserve to go to prison over this? And this begs yet another question.... Is this investigation politically motivated?

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    Makes no difference what laws might be different in his state - if he broke the law, he now pays.

    His legal ignorance is no excuse.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The evidence shows that Walker broke the law. Does freedom of speech extend to freedom to break the law? On the other hand, as I already brought up, Walker's lawbreaking in Wisconsin is not lawbreaking in a number of other states. So what does this do to the concept of "equal treatment under the law"? Should this become a Federal issue, or does states rights apply here?
    There are thousands of laws that are different in each state.

    As long as they don't violate Federal law, it makes no difference.

    This is not a new concept.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yup, one of my questions was if it was politically motivated. Walker probably broke the law here, but the prosecution here does seem politically motivated. Karl Rove would be drooling to do the same if the shoe had been on the other foot. But, again, I ask "Is Wisconsin's law unconstitutional"? I haven't seen this question addressed by many, because they either want to attack Walker or defend Walker.

    So what about the constitutionality of the Wisconsin law, as in First Amendment? Walker seems to be very interested in this aspect of the case, since this is the argument his legal team has been making for months.
    Yes you are 100% right on both accounts. Walker seems to have broken the law - I'm no lawyer but that law seems clear. And yes, it was absolutely politically motivated. (LMAO on tha Karl Rove comment - how true!).

    As far as the constitutionality of the law, that does bring up a very good question. On the surface, it appears that it could be unconstitutional, and if that is the case, I would hope that a judge would agree. It seems the Walker team is saying that the prosecutors applied an unconsitutional interpretation of the John Doe law.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens but if nothing else it certainly hurts Walker in the short term.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    Blady blah. Apples and oranges. It was already proven as not guilty of anything. Just read up on the subject rather than spout your nonsensical comparisons. The issue now is the guiltiness of John Doe prosecutorsí abuse of government power.
    OJ was also proven not guilty of murder but you believe he's guilty despite the lack of a guilty verdict. It's obvious that you're using one standard for OJ and another for a politician you support.
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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    I don't mind right to work. Unions had their time, now they are only another form of corruption. That is another debate I guess.
    one which we will never agree on, so it's not even worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    I agree on the silliness of this whole John Doe I and II witch hunt. The prosecuters just wasted taxpayer money to get sued. Its so dumb its hilarious. Its as if people striving for power never matured farther than high school.
    agree here. the hyperpartisan nonsense just makes me want to puke these days. we can't get anything done or rebuild anything in our country because everyone just wants to root for a ****ing team, and will do anything to win. meanwhile, a small percentage of the population can buy whoever wins.

    hopefully we'll fix this **** before the roof caves in.

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    Re: John Doe prosecutors allege Scott Walker at center of 'criminal scheme'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yup, one of my questions was if it was politically motivated. Walker probably broke the law here, but the prosecution here does seem politically motivated. Karl Rove would be drooling to do the same if the shoe had been on the other foot. But, again, I ask "Is Wisconsin's law unconstitutional"? I haven't seen this question addressed by many, because they either want to attack Walker or defend Walker.

    So what about the constitutionality of the Wisconsin law, as in First Amendment? Walker seems to be very interested in this aspect of the case, since this is the argument his legal team has been making for months.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes you are 100% right on both accounts. Walker seems to have broken the law - I'm no lawyer but that law seems clear. And yes, it was absolutely politically motivated. (LMAO on tha Karl Rove comment - how true!).

    As far as the constitutionality of the law, that does bring up a very good question. On the surface, it appears that it could be unconstitutional, and if that is the case, I would hope that a judge would agree. It seems the Walker team is saying that the prosecutors applied an unconsitutional interpretation of the John Doe law.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens but if nothing else it certainly hurts Walker in the short term.
    As far as the first amendment issue goes, I'm reluctant to make a prediction. However, the first amendment doesn't mean that the law can't restrict what a political office holder can do, particularly when it comes to campaigning and the use of campaign money. Even the Citizens United case did nothing to limit the govts power to regulate that. That case was about what a private organization can do, and not what a politician can do.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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