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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Problem with nuclear is that it is not safe. All the safeguards in the world won't help if an earthquake hits. The next major New Madrid quake to hit will cause not one, but several Fukushima type disasters, right in the middle of the United States. It's not an issue of if, but when. Mother nature is a bitch that cannot be ignored. So your solution is not a solution at all.
    That isn't true Nuclear IS SAFE granted yes a random earthquake COULD pose problems, but there are ways to work around that when you plan a building site, a foundation, and close enough to a geological institution to recieve advanced notice of any activity so they could turn the reactors off ahead of time. Truth is if you avoid building near a fault line you won't have any problems. In IL we have Byron Nuclear PP and it has never had a problem before. (Just don't build nuclear plants near fault lines)

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    1. Thanks for ignoring my solution (nuclear)
    2. Solar is a good energy source and while germany leads in Solar it still only makes up 12-14% of their total energy production, but if we could reach even half of that for our country it would help a bit. (If we could go 90% Nuclear and 10% solar it would be awesome for us.)
    Solar IS NOT a " Good " energy alternative.

    And you should do a bit of research before you use Germany as a example.

    They are more dependant on Coal than they were before they entered into their ill conceived " Green Revolution ".

    First, Germany's consumers get to pay for all this " free and renewable " energy by way of premiums that are added to their utility bills.

    They pay ths highest prices for energy than any other developed Nation and their air is dirtier than it was before they switched over to Green energy.

    That's because there are inherent lags in Solar and Wind power that are picked up by Coal fired power plants.

    Second, they built massive Windfarms off their Coast that continue to sit idle, NOT tied into the grid.

    Thats because they can't afford to tie them into their Grid and no Outside investor is willing to lend thdm the Capital to do it.

    They cant charge their Citizen's anymore so those Windfarms are just huge eyesores that USE POWER.

    Yup. They have to run power to them to keep the Salt Air and Wind from destroying them.

    What a waste. What a disaster

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Get ready for another spike in oil prices..... Which should remind us that, had we been pursuing alternative energy sources more vigorously, we wouldn't be depending on the most volatile area in the world for much of our oil. This should be a wake up call to all Americans to sack each and every Congress member who obstructs any attempt to wean us off Middle East oil. If we are not willing to do that, then, as Cassius once said, "The fault lies not in our stars, but in ourselves", and we will economically deserve everything we get.

    Article is here.
    Dang, there went the neighborhood again.

    Now those people will be in my ghetto with those Oklahoma credit cards again! looking for cheap gas.

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    That isn't true Nuclear IS SAFE granted yes a random earthquake COULD pose problems, but there are ways to work around that when you plan a building site, a foundation, and close enough to a geological institution to recieve advanced notice of any activity so they could turn the reactors off ahead of time. Truth is if you avoid building near a fault line you won't have any problems. In IL we have Byron Nuclear PP and it has never had a problem before. (Just don't build nuclear plants near fault lines)
    We can agree to disagree on this, but you do make a good point.
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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Dang, there went the neighborhood again.

    Now those people will be in my ghetto with those Oklahoma credit cards again! looking for cheap gas.
    The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong
    They're way too skinny, and way too long
    Well I ain't no holy roller, so I'll just smoke a bong
    The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong.

    The lyrics to this song was the first thing I thought of when you mentioned Oklahoma. I'm not into country music, but this song makes me laugh my ass off every time I hear it. LOL.
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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    We can agree to disagree on this, but you do make a good point.
    Likewise, I do believe that Alternative energy is part of the solution, but wherever those supplies lack I think Nuclear (Geothermal too gotta love that Geothermal) could pick the slack up which would allow us to devote oil towards gas production (lowering fuel costs.) I dig your point about a need for Alt Energy, but we have to play our whole hand for the most effect.

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Solar IS NOT a " Good " energy alternative.

    And you should do a bit of research before you use Germany as a example.

    They are more dependant on Coal than they were before they entered into their ill conceived " Green Revolution ".

    First, Germany's consumers get to pay for all this " free and renewable " energy by way of premiums that are added to their utility bills.

    They pay ths highest prices for energy than any other developed Nation and their air is dirtier than it was before they switched over to Green energy.

    That's because there are inherent lags in Solar and Wind power that are picked up by Coal fired power plants.

    Second, they built massive Windfarms off their Coast that continue to sit idle, NOT tied into the grid.

    Thats because they can't afford to tie them into their Grid and no Outside investor is willing to lend thdm the Capital to do it.

    They cant charge their Citizen's anymore so those Windfarms are just huge eyesores that USE POWER.

    Yup. They have to run power to them to keep the Salt Air and Wind from destroying them.

    What a waste. What a disaster
    What a crock of ****. Where did you get that drivel? Here's what is REALLY happening with the Germans offshore wind farm.

    Germany’s first offshore windfarm pilot project, “Alpha Ventus,” has produced some impressive results for 2012. Alpha Ventus exceeded expectations for its annual yield in 2012. The offshore wind farm fed 267.8 gigawatt-hours of power into the German power grid. With that, its power yield is 15.3% higher than the originally forecast value. The good trend also continued in the first quarter of 2013.

    267 gigawatt-hours is enough electricity to supply clean, renewable energy to approximately 70,000 households.
    Germany's Offshore Wind Farm Alpha Ventus Fed 267.8 GW Hours for 2012

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong
    They're way too skinny, and way too long
    Well I ain't no holy roller, so I'll just smoke a bong
    The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong.

    The lyrics to this song was the first thing I thought of when you mentioned Oklahoma. I'm not into country music, but this song makes me laugh my ass off every time I hear it. LOL.
    Good one!

    Gas, $3.89 here now.

    how much earl do we get from Iraq to make a difference in world oil prices?

    and secondly, why did gas jump from $2.45 a gallon to $5.25 a gallon on 9/11/01?

    Market Watch predicts oil will rise to $200 a barrel, why?

    Is this stuff not tied to speculators some how?

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    Re: Extremists Attack Iraq’s Biggest Oil Refinery

    So does anybody know how many oil men or oil women are among ISIS? to do more exploratory drilling, rig setup, parts and labor involved in extracting the nasty stuff from the ground?

    Oil reserves in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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