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Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

poweRob said:
In a free society, people have the right to disagree. What you are complaining about is that you don't want anyone to disagree with you and if they do disagree with you then you want to shut them down with the whole, "it's the PC Police" bull crap. People disagree all the time. Get over it. You are not a victim.
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Obviously you have no clue what the issue is. In this country, people have an expectation that the government will not rule on subjective whims pushed by the PC police. If you chose to not see that, too bad.
 
radcen said:
This point has always bugged me regarding this debate. You're right, nobody names a team with negative attributes in mind. When is the last time you saw the Seattle Sissies? Or, the Louisville Losers?

Ok, there is the US Santa Cruz Banana Slugs, but consider the source.
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Anaheim Mighty Ducks! What a doG awful name for a group of grown men. May as well have called them "Anaheim Fowl Sissies".
 
calamity said:
So, we can name a team the San Fransico Coolies in honor of the Chinese immigrants who arrived there in the 19th century?
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Strawman. That is not happening or even suggested. I wish you people would stop with the "what ifs".
 
ocean515 said:
Obviously you have no clue what the issue is. In this country, people have an expectation that the government will not rule on subjective whims pushed by the PC police. If you chose to not see that, too bad.
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There is no PC police. There is no group, no organization, no crew... there is no PC police. It is your fantasy boogie/straw man that gives you an excuse to be outraged at a fabricated target. That is all.
 
poweRob said:
I really don't have a dog in this fight and my point has been that these folks have a right to make their claim against the team, the patent office has a right to hear and act or not act on these peoples' grievance and the team has the right to appeal. Nothing new here under the sun.

Just watching all these other people in here also with no dog in the fight take it all personal to the point where this thread has eclipsed most other threads in size is comical to me.

Not to mention that I'm rather sure pretty much very little if anyone has actually read the case. Just the biased stories that they like to read about the case. Stories written in a fashion that shores up their outrage they seem to so desperately need.
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As US citizens we very much have a dog in this fight if you really understood what we've been repeatedly telling you is bothering us, which is not the Native Americans involved or anywhere else. It's the government deciding what's PC.

I read the case. There was nothing in it that changes my mind. And one of the three judges also read the case, I can only assume, and he didn't support this decision.
 
ocean515 said:
The California State Long Beach Baseball team is the Dirtbags. Seriously. I guess in little league around Long Beach, kids dream of being a Dirtbag one day.
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Don't know if they are still around but there was a minor league baseball team out of Albany, GA that was the Polecats. I like that one.
 
poweRob said:
There is no PC police. There is no group, no organization, no crew... there is no PC police. It is your fantasy boogie/straw man that gives you an excuse to be outraged at a fabricated target. That is all.
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There is no organized group, no. There are, however, individuals who view themselves as such and act accordingly. To deny this is to be willfully obtuse.
 
radcen said:
D-Bags for short? :mrgreen:
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Actually, yes. Local sports writers call them D-Bags. I wonder who could eventually become offended by their name. Other sports teams at LB State I believe are referred to as the 49ers. But they do love their Dirtbags.



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poweRob said:
There is no PC police. There is no group, no organization, no crew... there is no PC police. It is your fantasy boogie/straw man that gives you an excuse to be outraged at a fabricated target. That is all.
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So I have no right to my opinion and observation? Hmmm. The irony of your demand could be cut with a feather. Get over it.
 
tres borrachos said:
As US citizens we very much have a dog in this fight if you really understood what we've been repeatedly telling you is bothering us, which is not the Native Americans involved or anywhere else. It's the government deciding what's PC.

I read the case. There was nothing in it that changes my mind. And one of the three judges also read the case, I can only assume, and he didn't support this decision.
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You can go on and on about the PC police bit but feelings are not how it works.

"Federal trademark law does not permit registration of trademarks that 'may disparage' individuals or groups or 'bring them into contempt or disrepute.' The ruling pertains to six different trademarks associated with the team, each containing the word 'Redskin.' "
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A case was brought that claims it did do this. So you are basing your judgment on how you feel about it rather than the facts of the case.
 
ocean515 said:
So I have no right to my opinion and observation? Hmmm. The irony of your demand could be cut with a feather. Get over it.
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You most certainly do have a right to your opinion. You have no right to shut down others' opinions. Turns out your opinion is to fabricate a nonexistent organization to try to shut down other peoples' opinions. Shout it at the roof tops. Still is not real.
 
poweRob said:
Don't know if they are still around but there was a minor league baseball team out of Albany, GA that was the Polecats. I like that one.
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Somehow, I think you're about 8 rings out from center on your contribution here.
 
radcen said:
There is no organized group, no. There are, however, individuals who view themselves as such and act accordingly. To deny this is to be willfully obtuse.
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They are just people you disagree with. Nothing more.
 
poweRob said:
You can go on and on about the PC police bit but feelings are not how it works.

"Federal trademark law does not permit registration of trademarks that 'may disparage' individuals or groups or 'bring them into contempt or disrepute.' The ruling pertains to six different trademarks associated with the team, each containing the word 'Redskin.' "
linkypoo...​

A case was brought that claims it did do this. So you are basing your judgment on how you feel about it rather than the facts of the case.
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I didn't say PC Police in my post. I said the government deciding what's PC, which is exactly what happened.

Was there a reason you posted that link? I read the actual case.

I base my judgement on the same thing that the dissenting judge based his judgement on, the facts of the case (which were thin at best).
 
poweRob said:
Don't know if they are still around but there was a minor league baseball team out of Albany, GA that was the Polecats. I like that one.
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I grew up watching and listening on the radio to the Atlanta Crackers, a AA Southern League team of the Braves. They were around from 1901 to 1965. When the Negro Leagues were still flourishing, there were the Atlanta Black Crackers. But they were gone before I was born.
 
poweRob said:
You most certainly do have a right to your opinion. You have no right to shut down others' opinions. Turns out your opinion is to fabricate a nonexistent organization to try to shut down other peoples' opinions. Shout it at the roof tops. Still is not real.
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Turns out you don't have a clue what the issue is. The Patent office based their ruling on an opinion and a whim, not on any ruling in a court of law. Sorry, but I reject any attempt by government to cause financial harm on a legitimate and long running organization because some sensitive little puke in a government office got their undies in an uproar.

If you want to be captain of the twisted undie patrol so be it. No matter how ridiculous you want to establish your position to be, you're drowning in your own bathtub with your claim the "PC Police" don't exist.
 
poweRob said:
You can go on and on about the PC police bit but feelings are not how it works.

"Federal trademark law does not permit registration of trademarks that 'may disparage' individuals or groups or 'bring them into contempt or disrepute.' The ruling pertains to six different trademarks associated with the team, each containing the word 'Redskin.' "
linkypoo...​

A case was brought that claims it did do this. So you are basing your judgment on how you feel about it rather than the facts of the case.
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Well ****, everything "may disparage" some individual out there. Choose one thing, anything, and I guarantee you someone out there finds it offensive. Sounds like a poorly written law to me.
 
I would almost say it's unconstitutional. You should be allowed to disparage per free speech and not have some group say they are offended and that group having legal power over you to submit and change names or lose a patent altogether.
 
calamity said:
She said that since the term, "Redskin", isn't used anymore, it is no longer derogatory. Well "Coolie" is not used anymore either. So, is it too no longer derogatory?

This should be fun. No one uses "Kraut" anymore either. Do you think the Americans and the Krauts will be the two teams to emerge out of the FIFA Group of Death?
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There actually was a "Kraut" line in the NHL. One of the men on that line, Milt Schmidt, said there was never any offense whatsoever. Kraut line - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Perhaps people were just less thin skinned then.
 
It pleases me that some people don;t get uptight and are proud of their ancestry. That seems to work better than the highly sensitive need to hide everything from public view or discussion. "Hunky" Bill obviously takes pride in who he is and what he has done, as does his family. The "Redskins" or any group, should flaunt it rather than hide it. A Moment with PNE & Vancouver Food Icon Hunky Bill: Canada's Perogie King! - YouTube
 
tres borrachos said:
I didn't say PC Police in my post. I said the government deciding what's PC, which is exactly what happened.

Was there a reason you posted that link? I read the actual case.

I base my judgement on the same thing that the dissenting judge based his judgement on, the facts of the case (which were thin at best).
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so you believe that the 5 who brought it were not offended?
 
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