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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

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    There certainly are PC police. They inhabit some of the public schools for instance....where a child can get suspended or expelled for eating a pop tart into the shape of a gun. They inhabit congress...for instance Harry Reid insisting on the Washington Redskins changing their name.
    There is no PC police. Just people trying hard to be a victim who need a bogeyman to blame. It's all in your head.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Washington isn't in question here. It's the use of the term redskin.



    And this has already been shown to be nothing more than a whitewashing. Redskin has clear implications of race and little to do with "warrior".
    Who will you liberals go after next? The Cleveland Browns? You can probably find at least one or two African Americans offended by that name.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Can't speak for all but I believe FSU had the blessing of the Seminoles for their use of that. As far as Redskins being offensive... I dunno. I can see it in that it seems like a really really generalized stupid thing as if the Mohawks of the North East had anything in common with the Hopi in the Southwest. I'd think that "nigger" was probably derived from "negro" which is Spanish for black and Redskin was probably thrown out there for all natives whether they have a red color in their skin or not. I think the offense is being called out by your skin rather than your heritage in an over-generalized manner.

    Braves... calling someone brave is probably less of an insult. Cleveland Indians... well that's kind of insulting in that Indians is a misnomer being that Columbus was just an idiot who thought he traveled around the whole globe and had landed in India so people there where "Indians".

    I just think these people have a right to be heard as does the owner. But the owner has to bring more than just, "because I feel like it" or "it's been that way for a while" or anything petty like that. He needs to actually make a case for himself.
    I heard the same when it comes to Florida State. We went through this BS around 10-15 years back for the Braves, even ESPN announcers started referring to the Braves as the Bravos. I assume ESPN received a ton of complaints about the Bravos as about a week of so calling the Braves that, they went back to using the correct name of the Atlanta Franchise. This stuff goes on every 10-15 years, but this is the first time the Federal Government has stepped into the fray.

    I do not think the feds have any business telling a sports team what name they can use or not. Now I could understand this more if the patent office refused to issue a patent to a new team, but one that has been around for 80 years?

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    History[edit]
    The Washington Redskins were originally known as the Boston Braves. In 1933, co-owner George Preston Marshall changed the name to the Redskins, possibly in recognition of the then–head coach William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, who claimed to be part Sioux. On July 6, 1933, the Boston Herald reported that "the change was made to avoid confusion with the Braves baseball team and the team that is to be coached by an Indian (Dietz)... with several Indian players."[6] Dietz's ancestry has been questioned by some scholars, as a birth certificate and census records recorded his parents as white. This does not preclude his having had Sioux ancestry as well.[7] In 1933, the Boston Braves moved from Braves Field, which they shared with baseball's Boston Braves, to Fenway Park, already occupied by the Boston Red Sox. John F. Banzhaf III, Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University Law School, cites a newspaper article from 1933 in which Marshall is quoted as saying the name was selected only to save money by not having to change the logo of the Braves, and not to honor Dietz or the Indian players.[8] There was however, no logo on the Braves football uniform of 1932. The Washington Redskins current logo, which was inspired by Native American, Walter Wetzel, former president of the National Congress of American Indians, was introduced in 1972.[9]

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    There is no PC police. Just people trying hard to be a victim who need a bogeyman to blame. It's all in your head.
    Tell that to the little boy who was suspended from a public school for eating a pop tart into the rough shape of a gun. And another little boy who was suspended for pointing his finger at another student and saying: "bang".

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I heard the same when it comes to Florida State. We went through this BS around 10-15 years back for the Braves, even ESPN announcers started referring to the Braves as the Bravos. I assume ESPN received a ton of complaints about the Bravos as about a week of so calling the Braves that, they went back to using the correct name of the Atlanta Franchise. This stuff goes on every 10-15 years, but this is the first time the Federal Government has stepped into the fray.

    I do not think the feds have any business telling a sports team what name they can use or not. Now I could understand this more if the patent office refused to issue a patent to a new team, but one that has been around for 80 years?

    here:

    History[edit]
    The Washington Redskins were originally known as the Boston Braves. In 1933, co-owner George Preston Marshall changed the name to the Redskins, possibly in recognition of the then–head coach William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, who claimed to be part Sioux. On July 6, 1933, the Boston Herald reported that "the change was made to avoid confusion with the Braves baseball team and the team that is to be coached by an Indian (Dietz)... with several Indian players."[6] Dietz's ancestry has been questioned by some scholars, as a birth certificate and census records recorded his parents as white. This does not preclude his having had Sioux ancestry as well.[7] In 1933, the Boston Braves moved from Braves Field, which they shared with baseball's Boston Braves, to Fenway Park, already occupied by the Boston Red Sox. John F. Banzhaf III, Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University Law School, cites a newspaper article from 1933 in which Marshall is quoted as saying the name was selected only to save money by not having to change the logo of the Braves, and not to honor Dietz or the Indian players.[8] There was however, no logo on the Braves football uniform of 1932. The Washington Redskins current logo, which was inspired by Native American, Walter Wetzel, former president of the National Congress of American Indians, was introduced in 1972.[9]

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    Washington Redskins name controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I'd agree with you but I think it's the government's business in that a patent is a government contract. If there were no government contract involved then the government's role might be a different scenario.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Tell that to the little boy who was suspended from a public school for eating a pop tart into the rough shape of a gun. And another little boy who was suspended for pointing his finger at another student and saying: "bang".
    PC police does not exist. People make decisions good and bad everyday for whatever reason. Declaring there is this organized crew doing something just because someone in Whothefukknowswhere, Oklahoma made a judgement call they thought was prudent at the time... it's ridiculous. There is no PC police. Just people you disagree with who you wish to make seem bigger than they are. You are not a victim.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

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    Who will you liberals go after next? The Cleveland Browns? You can probably find at least one or two African Americans offended by that name.
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    Research is your friend. I wish you'd stop arguing that it is the use of a color itself that offends people when it's actually the historical significance of the name within the American sociocultural lanscape.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'd agree with you but I think it's the government's business in that a patent is a government contract. If there were no government contract involved then the government's role might be a different scenario.
    I could understand a new patent not being issued, but not one that goes back 80 years and has already been issued.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Who will you liberals go after next? The Cleveland Browns? You can probably find at least one or two African Americans offended by that name.
    I hope this doesn't mean the Chicago Blacks Hawks have to change their name. They have the best uniforms in the NHL.

    And anyone who has ever met a Native American knows their skin isn't really red. Would anyone complain if they called them The Washington Whiteskins?

    This might well go down as The Age of Pettiness.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

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    Research is your friend. I wish you'd stop arguing that it is the use of a color itself that offends people when it's actually the historical significance of the name within the American sociocultural lanscape.
    The name within the 'sociocultural landscape' is all positive.

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