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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I don't know. Your link was a jpg.

    However, since the "feel like it" standard was apparently used in this case, I imagine it must be there, or they wouldn't have used it.
    My bad, that was the new logo for the Alabama Mandingos

    Here's the trademark info
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You're a Skins fan, yes?

    What do you think Snyder will ultimately do? Change the name, or leave it? Just curious what the buzz is among their fans (if you know of any).
    My thoughts have largely been the same on this. The name will change due to three potential factors:

    1. Keeping the name causes a significant financial impact to Dan Snyder (Multiple major sponsors leaving, major fan boycott). If such a situation happens then I think he'll end up changing it. The trademark case alone is unlikely to cause this. They can potentially persue a common-law argument to still combat against people using the name "Washington Redskins" in a for-profit way. Additionally, I believe Forbes estimate on franchise worth suggested that merchandising accounted for less than $200 million of the $1.7 Billion the franchise is worth. And a fan boycott to any significant degree is unlikely to happen...hell, it's more likely that a boycott would occur DUE to a name change.

    2. The NFL, either having issue with having a team without a trademark or being unhappy with the financial issues itself, forcing the Redskins to change the name.

    3. The government finding some fashion of forcefully getting involve, either by forcing a change or perhaps bribing the Redskins to change the name by offering to fully fund a stadium within the city if the name is changed

    Those are the three main ways I can see the name changing anytime in the next 20 years. Beyond that it's too hard to really grasp where and how society is going to stand and how ownership of the team will really be. I see them as possabilities, but not inevitabilities. There's a lot of things that have to fall into place for them to happen, and the fact is that it's incumbant upon other things forcing the status quo to change as opposed to the status quo defending why it needs to remain.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    If <1% were offended (the mod team) I would have to change it. Of course, I'm not sure who I am marginalizing and profiting off of.
    So what's objectionable is that the Redskins are making a profit?

    And you think they are making a profit because of their name?

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

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    So, you're saying we should abolish property rights, too?
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I have no problem with that remedy. Free speech is preserved while the government refuses to protect the commercial value of it.
    Wow, that means we can ****-can copywrites, as well!
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So what's objectionable is that the Redskins are making a profit?

    And you think they are making a profit because of their name?
    Zyphlin suggests that people might boycott if they did change their name.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My thoughts have largely been the same on this. The name will change due to three potential factors:

    1. Keeping the name causes a significant financial impact to Dan Snyder (Multiple major sponsors leaving, major fan boycott). If such a situation happens then I think he'll end up changing it. The trademark case alone is unlikely to cause this. They can potentially persue a common-law argument to still combat against people using the name "Washington Redskins" in a for-profit way. Additionally, I believe Forbes estimate on franchise worth suggested that merchandising accounted for less than $200 million of the $1.7 Billion the franchise is worth. And a fan boycott to any significant degree is unlikely to happen...hell, it's more likely that a boycott would occur DUE to a name change.

    2. The NFL, either having issue with having a team without a trademark or being unhappy with the financial issues itself, forcing the Redskins to change the name.

    3. The government finding some fashion of forcefully getting involve, either by forcing a change or perhaps bribing the Redskins to change the name by offering to fully fund a stadium within the city if the name is changed

    Those are the three main ways I can see the name changing anytime in the next 20 years. Beyond that it's too hard to really grasp where and how society is going to stand and how ownership of the team will really be. I see them as possabilities, but not inevitabilities. There's a lot of things that have to fall into place for them to happen, and the fact is that it's incumbant upon other things forcing the status quo to change as opposed to the status quo defending why it needs to remain.

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    Thanks Zyphlin. Very interesting thoughts. I agree with all of them.

    BTW you mentioned Jon Huntsman's terrible campaign managers in a different post on this thread. You & I share the same frustration there. I worked on his primary campaign here in NH and you were spot on about those idiots!

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Zyphlin suggests that people might boycott if they did change their name.
    Really?

    And a fan boycott to any significant degree is unlikely to happen...hell, it's more likely that a boycott would occur DUE to a name change

    He's right.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I have no problem with that remedy. Free speech is preserved while the government refuses to protect the commercial value of it.
    So then who exactly benefitted here, Calamity?

    The NAs weren't out in droves demanding the name change and cease of use of that image anywhere.
    The fans didn't seem to care.
    The NFL didn't seem to care.
    The name's been around for how many decades?

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Really?

    And a fan boycott to any significant degree is unlikely to happen...hell, it's more likely that a boycott would occur DUE to a name change
    That's what I said.
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