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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I am not talking about equal rights. I am talking about the general attitudes of the majority towards the minority and how they are marginalized sociologically. I brought up the polling on SSM just to show how attitudes have changed.

    The Redskins may not have been trying to marginalize Native Americans when they named the team. As time goes on, language evolves. The term "redskin" may have been acceptable when they named the team. The n-word was acceptable for the majority to use at that time too. The times have changed. Language has evolved. This issue isn't going away. Referring to people by their skin color is culturally insensitive when used in the context of a franchise mascot.
    But, that pesky ol' 1st Amendment is still there!
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Speaking of wet and wild, is that a pearl necklace you're wearing?

    Hmmm... go redskins!
    Yes - oh my gosh. Finally someone gets the joke! So maybe a few people got it and just didn't say anything - but dayum! Thanks - faith in humanity restored. People still get subtle dirty jokes.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    They don't? Why not?
    Read the first amendment. It's kind of obvious.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    They don't? Why not?
    Oh, I dunno. Might be that thing we have called, "The Constitution"? It's been around since before you were born. Perhaps you've heard of it?
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That's not the same as turning them into a cartoon while calling them redskins.
    So the name isn't offensive, just the picture of the Indian with the feather and white paint?

    Does this mean we will never see this image used again, or anything even remotely similar? I'm sure the Patent Office and every branch of the US government are going to prohibit the image of a man, obviously a Native American, with a feather on his head and white war paint. Is that right?

    Those images will be striken from all school books (they're in there now by the way, I have 3 kids and know this)?
    No manufacturer of Thanksgiving decorations will be allowed to use that kind of rendering?
    No more Halloween costumes that even slightly resemble that?

    Is that what we can expect from the government?

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They dropped the trademark to pressure them into changing the name by harming their profit margin. So yes, the patent office is regulating free speech. A power they DO NOT have.
    Trademark registry deals with words...of course they are empowered to make decisions on speech. Besides, they did not say Snyder can't us the word. They said he can no longer register it. You really need to study up on the actual meaning of "free speech."

    BTW, trademark registration has a long list of rules for which words can and cannot be registered.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    They don't? Why not?
    Where are they granted that authority specifically? Citation, please.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Trademark registry deals with words...of course they are empowered to make decisions on speech. Besides, they did not say Snyder can't us the word. They said he can no longer register it. You really need to study up on the actual meaning of "free speech."

    BTW, trademark registration has a long list of rules for which words can and cannot be registered.
    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/840z57sGCyU/0.jpg
    The trademark was already registered.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So your saying "I've got Native ancestry and I'm not offended" overrides their "I've got Native ancestry and I am offended?"
    Yep. Pretty much. When some small butt-hurt group of attention-whores want to take something that was absolutely not intended to be offensive (and had approval of Native Americans) and then insist that things have changed and now you are all pouty because you don't care what was intended, you have chosen to be offended no matter what....

    Well, you sorta lose my sympathy for your manufactured outrage, knowhatimeanvern?

    Of course, you are entitled to disagree or even weep, wail and gnash your teeth if you wish, but that's my opinion.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    That has been my understanding as well. This is what should be so disturbing about the removal of the trademark protection. This is government by whim.

    Why that is not seen as an expansion of the very dangerous waters the country is being forced to wade in by the leadership in the White House and elsewhere, is alarming.
    I personally don't care if the Redskins are called the Redskins or the Hounds or the Dickheads. As a Giants fan, I will hate them no matter what.

    What I detest in this story is exactly what you said here (bolded part). I'm amazed that not everyone shares our concern.

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