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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    That's not what the ESPN article that I linked says.
    I know, which is why I posted the correction. Everything was cancelled, the logo, the name, all of it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'll have to give it a read. I was under the understanding this was only the name.
    I re-read it. You are correct, it is six trademarks of the name redskins, not the logo. The article was worded weirdly, but the box on the right explained it better.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Are the females here offended by the company named Hooters?

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You can, but it's not amazingly simple to get ahold of. It's not HARD, but it's not as simple as buying officially liscenced stuff.

    The problem for the NFL and the Redskins if this is to ever be upheld is that you could have people on Amazon, for instance, selling "Washington Redskins" stuff where previously they couldn't without a penny going to the NFL or the Skins
    It's as easy as Amazon. The only thing is it takes up to 45 days to arrive. It does arrive though. Good quality too.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    A common thing that the Constitution and First Amendment was intended to free us from. It was the principle that no dictator, monarch, feudal lord, pope, or any other authoritarian government could dictate what we were required to believe, think, practice, speak, or embrace. So common in other places and other times yes. But not common to the USA until just recently.
    Don't you think it was added into the constitution for a reason?

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    Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    That's not what the ESPN article that I linked says.
    Edit: you are correct Ockham. ESPN's article was worded a bit weird, but the box on the right explained it clearer.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    The number 90% is a bit dubious as there are serious questions about the cultural credentials of the respondents.
    Quibble all you like...if you don't have anything remotely to offer factually to counter it the fact is it's the most accurate scientifically polled data on the subject that's available.

    Why isn't that enough?
    Because everyone has their own arbitrary line. And that's all it is, arbitrary.

    There's a retired chief of one of the Native American tribes here in Virginia whose gone on record stating he'd be offended if they DO change the name. If 10% of the native american population felt that they'd be upset if the name WAS changed....would that somehow counter the other 10% for you? Since apparently 10% of a populatoin feeling a certain way is enough for you.

    But to an even greater extent, the issue with the 10% isn't so much a "do it/don't do it" thing...but rather it highlights the dishonesty by many who attempt to paint this as though it's offensive to native americans as a GROUP. No, in reality, this is offensive to a small portion of native americans. It's entirely reasonable for someone to decide, PERSONALLY, if that small portion is enough to warrant action. But it's NOT reasonable to attempt to take that small portion and portray them as the group as a whole in order to gain further sympathy and emotional weight to your side. It's against that kind of tactic that the "10%" number is most often meant to combat.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'll have to give it a read. I was under the understanding this was only the name.
    There's a lot of stories out there, and each one phrases it a little differently. But there does seem to be some sort of a consensus that this is the skinny:

    . . . Snyder and others associated with the team have long argued that the Redskins name is used with respect and honor and is a source of pride among many American Indians.

    The ruling involves six uses of the Redskins name trademarked by the team from 1967 to 1990. It does not apply to the team's American Indian head logo.

    If it stands, the team will still be free to use the name but will lose a lot of its ability to protect its financial interests. It will be more difficult for the team to go after others who print the Redskins name on sweatshirts, jerseys or other gear without permission.

    "Joe in Peoria is going to have a pretty good argument that he could put the 'Redskins' name on some T-shirt," said Brad Newberg, a copyright law expert in Virginia.

    Newberg estimated that the ruling, if upheld, could cost the team tens of millions of dollars per year. Forbes magazine puts the value of the Redskins franchise at $1.7 billion and says $145 million of that is attributable to the team's brand. . . . .
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-pa...210155449.html
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I know, which is why I posted the correction. Everything was cancelled, the logo, the name, all of it.
    No I think you were right, it's six uses of the name Redskins that were cancelled, but not the logo.

    Aww hell, I don't even know anymore.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    What if Donald Sterling owned the Redskins?
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