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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You're arguing that Redskins is a racial slur, but over 90% of Native Americans don't think it is.

    My native friends seem to be much more offended by how Thanksgiving is celebrated as a national holiday than the name Redskins.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Then they're a person right?
    It might have been a pan cake mix or something.

    There were many products that had the word "nigger" with in the label before the word became derogatory.

    Remember when the not so educated thought a geological form "niggerhead" was derogatory ?

    Or when stupid people thought that the adjective "niggardly" was derogative and racist ?

    Political correctness dumbs down society.

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    Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    To my understand, the only trademark that was killed off was that of the team name "Redskins".

    So, if they weren't going to fight it, anyone could go out and print a "Washington Redskins" T-Shirt or Jersey with "Griffin III" and 10 on the back.

    I don't believe the Logos themselves were part of the trademark that got stricken down...only the name.
    I edited and linked the ESPN article. From my understanding, it is the trademark patents of the name Redskins, and all logos from 1967 to 1990 that were cancelled.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You're arguing that Redskins is a racial slur, but over 90% of Native Americans don't think it is.
    Look in the dictionary:

    Redskins noun
    dated or offensive
    An American Indian.

    The number 90% is a bit dubious as there are serious questions about the cultural credentials of the respondents. But even so, we all agree that at least 10% of all Native Americans are offended by the term. Why isn't that enough? I mean, this isn't some random group of people. These are the remnants of a series of independent nations which spanned the continent which we murdered and stole their land to make room for our "manifest destiny". We "negotiated" them into the middle of nowhere, then stole that back when we found that the middle of nowhere was a great place for gold and oil.

    So it may not be offensive to you, but it's certainly offensive to a large number of people.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    They already do.

    You can get some really nice jerseys for $30 from China.
    You can, but it's not amazingly simple to get ahold of. It's not HARD, but it's not as simple as buying officially liscenced stuff.

    The problem for the NFL and the Redskins if this is to ever be upheld is that you could have people on Amazon, for instance, selling "Washington Redskins" stuff where previously they couldn't without a penny going to the NFL or the Skins

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    The trademark patent old spear logo is what was just cancelled.

    U.S. Patent Office cancels Washington Redskins trademark - ESPN
    That's incorrect. The Name was cancelled.

    Redskins name controversy heats up with federal cancellation of trademark - baltimoresun.com
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's not what the ESPN article that I linked says.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I edited and linked the ESPN article. From my understanding, it is the trademark patents of the name Redskins, and all logos from 1967 to 1990 that were cancelled.
    I'll have to give it a read. I was under the understanding this was only the name.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    This is very common throughout the ages. You are right. It is not a good thing but it is a common thing.
    A common thing that the Constitution and First Amendment was intended to free us from. It was the principle that no dictator, monarch, feudal lord, pope, or any other authoritarian government could dictate what we were required to believe, think, practice, speak, or embrace. So common in other places and other times yes. But not common to the USA until just recently.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    The number 90% is a bit dubious as there are serious questions about the cultural credentials of the respondents. But even so, we all agree that at least 10% of all Native Americans are offended by the term. Why isn't that enough?
    Because it doesn't matter what they think. Just like it wouldn't matter what they thought if it was 100% of native americans. They don't own the team, and they can just not watch the teams games or do any business with them at all if they are so offended over word usage.

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