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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, I'd expect the same kind of support right? I mean, they should be able to use any racial slur they want to if we're going to say it's okay to use a racial slur.

    Washington Stupid Micks?
    Washington Wops?
    Washington Crazy Ass Crackers?
    Gooks?
    Palefaces?
    I think what people are forgetting is, they named the team because of the bravery of the "Redskins", not to disparage them. Every example you just posted is 100% derogitory, while the Redskins name was chosen to honor the fighting spirit of "native Americans".

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What's wrong with any of those racial slurs? If they have a right to use a racial slur, they should be able to use any racial slur.
    You can make all the suggestions you want, I'm not invested in the naming of sports teams at all. However, you didn't answer my question - do you have a point. Do you?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

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    I don't like him because of his politics, compeletely anyway. I like him because he's a spitfire who attacks back. He's a self-made man, too, which I admire. And he's very philanthropic.
    Not entirely self made. He was given money from his father to start his own business. Still pretty impressive to turn it into billions though.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I haven't denied the darkest part of the history either. History is what it is. And if we are honest historians we don't get to pick the part of history we like and ignore the less commendable, and we don't get to pick something bad in the history and present it as if that is all the history there is or all that is important.

    But because the Indian people--our "Native Americans" around here mostly refer to themselves as "Indians" so I do too--were treated badly in their history, must we assume that it is shameful somehow to refer to any of their history now? And while we can tease or caricature or utilize a real or mythical trait of almost any other ethnic group for fun and profit, that Native American people are somehow too fragile or unworthy to be included in that?
    I'm not saying that the usage of a Native American likeness is offensive. I dont' see an issue with the Seminoles, Indians, Braves, etc.. We're not talking about that.we're talking about using a racial slur as a team name, and redskins IS a racial slur. It's kind of hard to argue otherwise.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I'm not saying that the usage of a Native American likeness is offensive. I dont' see an issue with the Seminoles, Indians, Braves, etc.. We're not talking about that.we're talking about using a racial slur as a team name, and redskins IS a racial slur. It's kind of hard to argue otherwise.
    You're arguing that Redskins is a racial slur, but over 90% of Native Americans don't think it is.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    This is a wonderful little news story for the Mike Florio and Mike Wises of the world to run with, but really at the moment it's a bit...."meh, okay."

    One, removal of the trademark pattent doesn't force or require a name change of any kind.

    Two, this will undoubtably be appealed and an injunction put in place while the appeal runs it's course. And said appeal could last for years.

    Three, this has happened before and went to court and got tossed out.

    Four, even if somehow this does get upheld there's still some questionable legitimacy as to whether or not the team can still take certain copyright action despite not having a trademark.

    COULD this be a big deal years down the line? Sure, it COULD. But right now it's a nice story with little true tangible impact.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You're arguing that Redskins is a racial slur, but over 90% of Native Americans don't think it is.
    To be fair...there's no evidence as to whether or not 90% of native americans view it as a racial slur or not. There's no poll I've seen indicating how much of the NA population find it a slur.

    However, there has been polling done to show that over 90% of Native Americans don't feel the name should be changed.

    Now it's reasonable to suggest that if a majority thought the Washington Redskin's use of the word "Redskin" was as a racial slur that more than 9% of NA's would say the name should be changed....but full transparency, that's not what the poll said

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Not entirely self made. He was given money from his father to start his own business. Still pretty impressive to turn it into billions though.
    The college jet business? His father didn't give him money for that. Maybe you're talking about the Wallboard ad business he started with his sister?

    Yeah, he's self made, as opposed to inheriting money. The dude has some serious ambition. He's not even 50 yet.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Change the Atlanta Braves to the Atlanta Slaves, and instead of the Tomahawk Chop, 40,000 slaves fans can pretend to pick cotton.

    There were probably more Slaves than Braves in Atlanta anyway.

    It won't shock me if they come up with a creative "**** you" when they pick a new name.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    redskins IS a racial slur. It's kind of hard to argue otherwise.
    It's not hard at all.

    Redskin CAN be a racial slur. It is not, nor has it ever been, JUST a racial slur.

    And there's ample evidence to suggest that the method of it's use by the Washington Redskins is in line with the uses of it that don't align with a racial slur.

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