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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    What is your issue with Native Americans? Savages????? That's an accurate term???? Do you not realize how incredibly racist it is to classify an entire race of people as savages because they didn't live in stone houses and own guns? Sheesh..I suppose you think that they should be grateful to be genocided by a much nobler race.

    And then you conflate Redman with Redskin. Seriously? If you can't understand why someone else would find the term offensive, then you pretty much lack any human empathy.
    If you read her post, she said this:

    a people sometimes represented historically as savages--which was accurate in many cases

    And she is correct. If Anne Hutchinson and her children who were slaughtered and scalped by the Indians and were alive today, and if the entire population of Deerfield, MA who were slaughtered by the Indians in a surprise raid and they were alive today, they would agree with her.

    She also said "sometimes" represented historically "in many cases" which means she ISN'T classifying "an entire race" as "savages".

    You shouldn't put words in her mouth.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I would have thought that was obvious to everyone who understands what a trademark patent is. Maybe I was wrong.

    I hope Dan Snyder sues the **** out of someone for this.
    The NFL collects revenue on the team names merchandise. I wonder if they will now get involved?
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I will tell you the same thing as I told Gimme. I did NOT classify an entire race of people as savages, but to deny that the Native American peoples had their savage side in their history would be absurd. It would be as absurd as saying that medieval Europeans were never brutal feudal lords or that 18th century descendants of Europeans never owned slaves. To acknowledge that am I saying that a whole race of people were or are slave owners or supporters of feudalism? Is saying that it is historically accurate that at least some black Americans descended from jungle tribes suggesting that an entire race of black people are jungle dwellers? A little intellectual honesty here please.
    If it is universal to all races and all peoples across all times why did it need a special mention for Native Americans. Also, who were the savages; the people who were cheated, murdered, rounded up, murdered some more, then deported to camps in the middle of no where or the people who carried out those crimes?

    No, you made a special point of saying that "some" of the Native Americans were savages.. as if that somehow justifies our treatment of them. Intellectual honesty says that our treatment of the Native Americans and slavery are the two darkest moments in our history.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Apache is the name of a tribe. How is the name disparaging? What tribe is the redskins?
    He's calling Apaches rats! It's despicable! That cannot be tolerated!

    Or is he calling rats apaches? Hmmmm....

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Anyone can use any name that isn't protected by trademark. What this is, is an attack on the ability of the team owners to protect their brand and make money from that brand. It was the government saying that the name of the company was "offensive." How many other companies are next?

    Should the federal government have the power to harm a private company that is not breaking any laws? Because that's exactly what they just did.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Red Skin potatoes should be offended, better come up with something else to call them quick.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Yes but now every T-shirt maker in China can copy their logo and sell it, taking revenue from the NFL.
    They already do.

    You can get some really nice jerseys for $30 from China.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Yes but now every T-shirt maker in China can copy their logo and sell it, taking revenue from the NFL.
    They can't sue Chinese bootleggers now. There are no international trademark laws. They can sue if the distributor is here in the US.


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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    The Washington casino owners. Howaboutthat?
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Lots of good info at this link: 4 burning questions from U.S. Patent Office’s decision to cancel Redskins trademarks | For The Win




    So, will the Redskins change their name?

    I don't know and I really don't care, I'm 1/8th Native American and the name doesn't offend me.

    I know that other people have other opinions (Which they are entitled to.).
    I admire your neutrality. It really adds to the discussion.

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